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Tiers, Sandbaggers and Equipment

Tue, Apr 17 2012 6:17 PM (98 replies)
  • knifleydog
    264 Posts
    Fri, Dec 23 2011 8:26 PM

    that is true and H-DAYS to you to

     

  • swannyxx
    303 Posts
    Fri, Dec 23 2011 9:05 PM

    jaderoks:

    swannyxx:

    Tier the club's if you have a big boy driver you play from the big boy's tee.open the proshop to everyone let them buy what they want and let the games begin ...

    This is a great idea. At least somewhere to start from.

     

    TY man at least someone on site understand's simple.

     

  • EnglishRosey
    733 Posts
    Fri, Dec 23 2011 10:42 PM

     

    Ok.... the thing is if you let all play from same tees in mpc or skins or let the equipment be tier based, you will only have players playing there tiers which i do not think is great and does not really solve problem as masters will just play masters but 1 could still be sandbagger.

    I played a couple of skins games for credits today, after being picky and choosing players i could trust. In one i did well and not so well in the other. BUT both games were very enjoyable because you can appreciate an honest player playing well. Its also nice playing with lower tiers and helping them or seeing them have round of there life, and in skins have a chance off there tees of winning some rollovers.

    The credits im not so fussed about losing in good games (i dont bet much), its just nice to have something on the line for banters sake.....

    I think the only solution is for wgt to account for mpc and skins games as stroke ones, so they say you would of got 30 and it affects your average, but scoring in game remains the same.

     

  • mnshiner
    1,382 Posts
    Sat, Dec 24 2011 12:48 PM

    Why doesn't everyone post this persons name in this thread and let WGT get rid of us all.

    That way we will be able to see if WGT has any ...... and not talking about golf balls.

  • Ducati916
    1,116 Posts
    Sat, Dec 24 2011 1:34 PM

    I'll post my name....and the facts...I was joining a skins game...saw it was a legend...knew from others I'd played that he was a whiner...so I immediately quit the game before it started...then he decides to post on my wall how I'm a cheat and I'm the reason the game isn't fun and no one should play me.  My response was that I stopped playing MPC, and always...always offer to drop a game if anyone feels it is unfair.  Anyone who checks my profile would see that I play almost exclusively alt. shot.  I told him that the game is flawed and that all forms of play should count towards tiers and that he should play the style of games he likes, with who he wants...and that he should allow me to do the same.  For some reason, he's now decided that he, and he alone is the Ethics police of WGT...news flash...he's not...he can play whatever he wants...so can I.....He decided to go looking for a reason to attack what I have the free choice to do...I harm no one, offer a polite game with everyone and anyone.  I have no idea, when I have never played him, why he's decided that I'm now his crusade...but I don't really care...he'll have no bearing on my life...but, as I expected, he then went and made another post on my wall that bashes me...so...I repsonded.  I'm sure he'll get bent again and tell me that I'm solely responsible for the poor economy and famine in Africa...but, the fact is....it's none of his business.

  • EnglishRosey
    733 Posts
    Sat, Dec 24 2011 1:42 PM

    Ok for starters im female but irrelevant, as a community game we are all the 'police' 

    In the grand scheme of my life this has very little bearing but here it has immense bearing.  I play no other games and at work and in the early hours this is enjoyable.  You ruin that enjoyment of WGT, forcing me to question other players, you sum up all sandbaggers. 

    YOu claim not to play for credits but above you can see that is a lie and i found you because you were trying to join a skins challenge game, i had already written this post, so as i was thinking about it, looked you up as a tourpro level 90 immediately caught my eye, then your stats spoke for themselves. To deny after over a year of play here that you do not know what you are doing is just bs, serious playing off the pro tees....very funny not even master :)

    All my comments about you stand.

    You play alts for practise and then mpc for big amounts and skins. You play 500c opens and take down 12,000 -7,500 credits depriving real tour pros. You are a Hidden Legend and an Open D__K

    happy X mas

    Not sure i have ever really whined before this.....

    Also if i get rid of you might show a lesson to others :)

    http://www.wgt.com/tournaments/leaderboard.aspx?id=6b371943-e959-47fb-b19d-9f300000f941 - aug

    http://www.wgt.com/tournaments/leaderboard.aspx?id=5d182fb9-d5d9-4b3c-a5a3-9e000161745f -oct

     

    it goes on, all your 33 ranked rounds are these. 

     

  • Sanco
    1,345 Posts
    Sat, Dec 24 2011 7:02 PM

    Ducati916:

    I'll post my name....and the facts...I was joining a skins game...saw it was a legend...knew from others I'd played that he was a whiner...so I immediately quit the game before it started...then he decides to post on my wall how I'm a cheat and I'm the reason the game isn't fun and no one should play me.  My response was that I stopped playing MPC, and always...always offer to drop a game if anyone feels it is unfair.  Anyone who checks my profile would see that I play almost exclusively alt. shot.  I told him that the game is flawed and that all forms of play should count towards tiers and that he should play the style of games he likes, with who he wants...and that he should allow me to do the same.  For some reason, he's now decided that he, and he alone is the Ethics police of WGT...news flash...he's not...he can play whatever he wants...so can I.....He decided to go looking for a reason to attack what I have the free choice to do...I harm no one, offer a polite game with everyone and anyone.  I have no idea, when I have never played him, why he's decided that I'm now his crusade...but I don't really care...he'll have no bearing on my life...but, as I expected, he then went and made another post on my wall that bashes me...so...I repsonded.  I'm sure he'll get bent again and tell me that I'm solely responsible for the poor economy and famine in Africa...but, the fact is....it's none of his business.

    The sad part of all this is that, except in a few instances that get dealt with, most players, like you, are playing within the rules set by WGT and nothing more.  Whilst some of us see this as unethical there is absolutely nothing wrong in doing so because the rules allow this.

    Of course the repercussions of this sad system is right there in the very argument that has been created here, and in a way we are all sadly becoming suspicious through sheer frustration with the status-quo.

    It is an extremely sad situation we find ourselves in, and it is befuddling that WGT, in the name of the greenback, allows it to fester thus ruining such a great community.

    Happy Holidays everyone.

     

  • Ducati916
    1,116 Posts
    Sat, Dec 24 2011 7:16 PM

    I believe that Rosey and I have reached an understanding and I wish her all the best.  The tier issue needs fixing...and I've always said that. I think the clubs to tier match is the best way...but, it is about WGT making money so I doubt they'll do it.  I'll stay away from MPC and skins outside of my tier (the one I won the other day was within my tier)....and stick to Alt. Shot...it's the most fun format in my opinion anyway.

     

    Happy Christmas to all.

  • duval1984
    65 Posts
    Sat, Dec 24 2011 7:35 PM

    dude u have to be kidding me. staying in ur tier u would still be at an advantage ur a freakin level 90 tour pro. jesus i dont believe u made a post this has to be a holiday joke. how bout u play some more ranked games and turn master then u wouldnt have to  hear so much bs. but im sure u could have turned master u just want to stay on those tees cause its all about the money right.

  • LeonDelBosque
    1,551 Posts
    Sat, Dec 24 2011 7:45 PM

    You're trying to blame this on WGT? Give me a break. You can't take the time to play a handful of ranked rounds? Absolute b.s... man up and quit taking advantage of people. Ridiculous. 

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