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Sat, Mar 31 2012 1:50 PM (13 replies)
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  • Lmorgan007
    408 Posts
    Sat, Mar 31 2012 10:27 AM

    So who do think will manage to win?  My Money's on Rory.

  • KJHAWK2
    567 Posts
    Sat, Mar 31 2012 10:39 AM

    .

  • Lmorgan007
    408 Posts
    Sat, Mar 31 2012 10:50 AM

    ??

  • KJHAWK2
    567 Posts
    Sat, Mar 31 2012 10:53 AM

    .

  • Lmorgan007
    408 Posts
    Sat, Mar 31 2012 10:54 AM

    Come on Rory

  • DannyPhan
    1,013 Posts
    Sat, Mar 31 2012 11:06 AM

    Lmorgan007:

    L82 TM with a politeness issue.

    I believe he is referring to you score history. 

    posting an ARTIFICIALLY high score in order to keep your avg high and not progress to a higher tier is referred to as SANDBAGGING. 

    It is easy to see how he may have gotten this perception from your score history.

    03.22.12 March 18-hole Unlimited Play Full 18 Pro 86
    03.22.12 March 18-hole Unlimited Play Full 18 Pro 111
    03.22.12 Wk 12 18-hole Single Play Full 18 Master 114
    03.22.12 March 9-hole Monthly Tournament Back 9 Tour Pro

    50

     

    03.19.12 WGT Winter Tour – March Qualifier Full 18 All Players 120
    03.18.12 WGT Winter Tour – March Qualifier Full 18 All Players 131
    03.18.12 Wk 11 9-hole Unlimited Play Front 9 Master 66
    03.18.12 Wk 11 9-hole Unlimited Play Front 9 Master 67
    03.17.12 Wk 11 9-hole Unlimited Play Front 9 Master 70
    03.17.12 WGT Winter Tour – March Qualifier Full 18 All Players 112

     

    just saying....

    Danny

  • Lmorgan007
    408 Posts
    Sat, Mar 31 2012 11:27 AM

    Danny

    I hear what you are saying, however

    1 - I stated on my blog that I was going for some of the more esoteric awards.   To get  Water Boy, the Yips etc means big scores.  Trying to leave myself long puts to get long distance putter awards means big scores.    If KJHAWK had bothered to look at my profile he would have realised this.

    2 - Given that I hit Master level early and will be at TM soon (probably at lvl 64/65) suggests that if my intention was not to progress to a higher tier then it failed.

    3 - Why would I sand-bag?  I've not played a single match-play and haven't fleeced anyone.  Unlike a lot of people here I play mainly ranked stroke play matches whereas some people are still at Pro level with Lvl 64+ gear and winning records against Legends.  

    4 - I've also wasted plenty of credits on bad RGT scores and attempts to play unrestricted RG's in vain.  Yes I've had a few good RG scores but so have tonnes of other players.

    5 - Fact is that in most of the tiers I've been in I've had to compete against players who are much higher levels than I and therefore with much better gear, so I've never been at a competitive advantage against anyone, quite the opposite.

    KJHAWK2 may have jumped to the wrong conclusion, but he just went in with both feet calling me a sandbagger without so much as a hello first.  Not very polite in my book., hence my comment.  

    Given that we'll both be at TM soon and seeing each other around I hope that's cleared that up.

     

     

    Cheers

  • alosso
    21,073 Posts
    Sat, Mar 31 2012 11:40 AM

    "Nice" discovery, Danny.

    About 20 discussable scores, quite a big effort (half of them over full 18).

    Edit:

    Deleted this:

    Alas, they are worth nothing towards a sandbagger's goals because they will be out of the calculation before he's even close to the tier-up. They are only good to harm his reputation.

    Alas, see his blog explaining these excursions - quite an experimental player!

    In the end, a dozen remarkable RG scores below 65, down to a 58.

    Congrats for that, morgan!

  • Lmorgan007
    408 Posts
    Sat, Mar 31 2012 11:44 AM

    Alosso I play in the same tier as you but don't have the advantage of being a level 87 Master.

    If you look at my RG scores at Master tier you'll see that they were very average until I got my Level 58+ G20 driver , but then I was making do with largely starter gear unlike the  Level 83+ G20 gear that you use, which gave you 50+yards per hole advantage over the likes of me.

    As for the false accusation of sandbagging I refer you to my reply to Danny.

     

  • KJHAWK2
    567 Posts
    Sat, Mar 31 2012 11:59 AM

    Truly apoligize to LMorgan! I made a huge mistake and jumped the gun looking at his scores. Thought they were 18 hole scores but I was wrong. Very sorry again!

    HAWK

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