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Re: matchplay affect on avg stats tier

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Tue, Feb 12 2019 4:35 AM (35 replies)
  • brekee
    26 Posts
    Fri, Oct 20 2017 7:45 PM

    01:02 CET 02-04-2018 Remark 2: WRONG (i see...now you have got 33 wins vs TourLegends + 5 wins vs Champions - so 46 more wins needed reaching TourLegend tier) --- Remark 1: Sorry, it is not sure!!! DOUBTED (see below) 18:05 CET 28.10.2017

  • brekee
    26 Posts
    Fri, Oct 20 2017 8:53 PM
    ---FACT! as a TourPro generally 7 matchplay wins needed vs higher tiered players reaching Master tier--- ---FACT! as a Master generally 7 matchplay wins needed vs higher tiered players reaching TourMaster tier--- ---FACT! as a TourMaster generally 9 matchplay wins needed vs higher tiered players reaching Legend tier--- ---GUESS!!! as a Legend generally 84 matchplay wins needed vs higher tiered players reaching TourLegend tier---
  • alosso
    21,070 Posts
    Sun, Oct 22 2017 7:33 AM
    @brekee

    Can't tell about your calculus - never heard of such thing. When I was promoted to Legend by winning two Matches as a TM, I was given -0.7 per win, substracted from my average.
    But this I know:
    brekee:
    3. Legend (500) i am a L with a single strokeplay 9 hole game 37 - average is 74/1=74 i won a scored matchplay game against a TourLegend - new average is (74+6*60)/7=62
    is wrong - matchplay has no effect on averages from Legend up.
  • ZioMio
    4,680 Posts
    Sun, Oct 22 2017 8:06 AM
    alosso:
    winning two Matches as a TP, I was given -0.7 per win,
    Do credit matches have a larger effect on the average drop?
  • MichaelStroke
    2,066 Posts
    Sun, Oct 22 2017 9:05 AM
    brekee:
    i see...now you have got 33 wins vs TourLegends + 5 wins vs Champions - so 46 more wins needed reaching TourLegend tier
    1) There's not a set amount of wins vs. another tier required to advance, and 2) You cannot reach TL through match play. I can see why they won't put stroke stats on match because they can easily be skewed. You can land 100 feet away from hole, on green, on the first Andrews par 5. If it's conceded, that shouldn't count as an eagle. Conversely, you could land 2 feet from pin for an eagle gimme. If that's conceded, what if it didn't count? Whole lot of grey area.
  • alosso
    21,070 Posts
    Sun, Oct 22 2017 10:04 AM
    They should, but I don't know.
  • brekee
    26 Posts
    Sun, Oct 22 2017 11:41 PM

    alosso:
    But this I know:
    brekee:
    4. Legend (500) i am a L with a single strokeplay 9 hole game 37 - average is 74/1=74 i won a scored matchplay game against a TourLegend - new average is (74+6*60)/7=62
    is wrong - matchplay has no effect on averages from Legend up.

    understood - it was a guess, but what I wrote above that, those are experiential facts (1-3.)

    16/02/2019

    these are the experienced facts:

    as a Hack 1 MP win vs an Amateur or higher = 2 times your best H score or 2 times 90

    as an Amateur 1 MP win vs a Pro or higher = 3 times your best A score or 3 times 80

    as a Pro 1 MP win vs a TourPro or higher = 3 times your best P score or 3 times 72

    as a TourPro 1 MP win vs a Master or higher = 4 times your best TP score or 4 times 67

    as a Master 1 MP win vs a TourMaster or higher = 5 times your best M score or 5 times 63

    as a TourMaster 1 MP win vs a Legend or higher = 6 times your best TM score or 6 times 61

    as a Legend MP wins does not affect on the Avg

    18/03/2019

    Remark:

    Important to know that there are some cases when Avg remains the same (even a lot of MPwins vs higher tiered players)

    eg. You are a new TourMaster with a single 32(64) Ranked TM SPscore and Avg 64

    so your best TM score is 64

    all MPwins vs Legend or higher equals one by one 6 times 64 score

    so you will saturate very soon with the same 64 Avg

    Conclusion:

    better to have no score... or you need a good score before many MPwins vs Ls.

    b

  • KJHolman
    4 Posts
    Thu, Feb 7 2019 8:51 AM

    in other words you blow and wgt dont tier up scrubs

  • ffries61
    522 Posts
    Thu, Feb 7 2019 10:26 PM

    KJHolman:

    in other words you blow and wgt dont tier up scrubs

    Said the Master to  the Tour Legend, LMAO, BTW  you're responding to a 2 year old thread.

  • DoctorLarry
    4,309 Posts
    Thu, Feb 7 2019 11:48 PM

    ffries61:

    KJHolman:

    in other words you blow and wgt dont tier up scrubs

    Said the Master to  the Tour Legend, LMAO, BTW  you're responding to a 2 year old thread.

    LOL.  True!

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