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Tue, Jan 25 2011 11:57 AM (4 replies)
  • scfireman14
    3 Posts
    Thu, Jun 3 2010 1:48 PM

    I asked this question about 3 weeks ago and was told it was because they have changed the scores needed to achieve certain tiers but I am still perplexed. My friend made pro as soon as he turned below 80, yet I see numerous profiles rated as amateurs that are in the mid to low 70's such as the one below.

    http://www.wgt.com/user/Profile.aspx?UserID=748404

    Can you please explain how this happens.  I have a rating above this guy's but I am pro and would love the chance to go back to amateur...

    Thanks...

    Scott

    scfireman14

     

     

  • WGTniv
    1,788 Posts
    Thu, Jun 3 2010 4:13 PM

    Hi scfireman,

    Thanks for the report.  We are looking into why a few Amateur players have those lower averages.  There may be an error there.  The typical promotion line will fall for most players between 77 and 78 usually, with your most recent rounds being the determinant for whether it's closer to the lower end or the higher end of that estimate.  Your friend was promoted at the appropriate time, we'll just need to look into those particular players and find out why they weren't.

    Also, once you have moved up to the Pro Tier, you cannot move back to the Amateur Tier.

  • WGTniv
    1,788 Posts
    Thu, Jun 3 2010 11:17 PM

    Ok,

    Our tier promotion system is rather in-depth and takes into account quite a few different factors when determining a players tier placement.  Tier is not entirely based on your average score.  There are some other calculations involved that when combined together make up your tier. Part of that calculation is a weighting on your most recent scores that is heavily considered.  The way the tier system works it will usually promote most players within 1 or 2 strokes of the same average, but that's assuming that most players are playing on a regular basis.

    In the case of players who do not play stroke play on a regular basis (like the player you linked) they do not get weighted quite as heavily since they have scores spread out over many weeks and may not have any "recent" scores.  Players who only play once every while will usually take just a little longer to reach the promotion level (slightly lower #).  If that player was to come back and play 2 or 3 rounds back to back he would likely be immediately promoted to the Pro Tier since he would then have a lot of "recent" scores to weight.

    Basically, depending on the total number of stroke games you play the point at which you cross the promotion line will vary.  Since the player you linked played a game about once a month or so, he would probably be one of the most extreme examples of this.  Most active Amateurs will turn pro in the 77-78 range, give or take.

    As I mentioned above, there are even more calculations involved than what I'm able to discuss here. We keep part of it secret so players do not figure out how to "ride the line" and sandbag prizes in a lower tier, but I hope this helps you to understand why you see some players with lower averages than most in a particular tier.

  • wingo5
    21 Posts
    Tue, Jan 25 2011 10:40 AM

    WGTniv:
    Also, once you have moved up to the Pro Tier, you cannot move back to the Amateur Tier.

    I've just found & read yr post...I've been troubled with this for some time...Why is this??

    move to pro tier after playing 2-3 good rds which dropped my avg to 72...then i began a long string of poor play, now have an 80 avg & wondering why im not dropped back to amatureur.

    wingo5

  • b0geybuster
    2,574 Posts
    Tue, Jan 25 2011 11:57 AM

    wingo5:

    WGTniv:
    Also, once you have moved up to the Pro Tier, you cannot move back to the Amateur Tier.

    I've just found & read yr post...I've been troubled with this for some time...Why is this??

    move to pro tier after playing 2-3 good rds which dropped my avg to 72...then i began a long string of poor play, now have an 80 avg & wondering why im not dropped back to amatureur.

    wingo5

    You can not move back to a previous tier.  There is only forward progression.  

    Cheers,

    b0gey

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