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Re: Please make R-11S available to level 90 or above

Sat, Jul 20 2013 2:21 PM (9 replies)
  • Jresh0817
    1,414 Posts
    Fri, Jun 28 2013 8:38 AM

    Just wanted to say that I am happy for all who are able to now get the R1 at level 93,and of course  I'm  a bit jealous...How about WGT throwing us a bone at level 90 and above and make the R-11S available for a limited time only....It kind of don't make sense to have a Level 93 club far  superior  to the Level 94 R11-S does it anyway,why not drop it down...just a thought!

  • courteneyfish
    15,796 Posts
    Fri, Jun 28 2013 8:52 AM

    It sounds good to me. Come on WGT, keep us interested.

  • DoctorEagle
    1,312 Posts
    Sun, Jun 30 2013 12:10 AM

    I'll 3rd that.

  • alanti
    10,564 Posts
    Sun, Jun 30 2013 12:30 AM

    Personally I cannot see that happening as I stated in another thread due to financial reasons. But what I think would be a good compomise would be dropping the R11S to level 92. Nope not ideal for everyone but this is what many had wanted prior to the LE R1 coming out,

  • courteneyfish
    15,796 Posts
    Sun, Jun 30 2013 12:39 AM

    In a very quick reply to my letter to WGT on this, they stated that the R1 will not be moving below level 93. Hopefully some other clubs will change tiers or more will be made available soon.

  • Jresh0817
    1,414 Posts
    Mon, Jul 1 2013 5:20 PM

    Well hopefully the R-11S!!!

    courteneyfish:

    In a very quick reply to my letter to WGT on this, they stated that the R1 will not be moving below level 93. Hopefully some other clubs will change tiers or more will be made available soon.

     

  • Jresh0817
    1,414 Posts
    Thu, Jul 18 2013 6:32 PM

    alanti:

    Personally I cannot see that happening as I stated in another thread due to financial reasons. But what I think would be a good compomise would be dropping the R11S to level 92. Nope not ideal for everyone but this is what many had wanted prior to the LE R1 coming out,

    Level 92 would fine even...just help out those players who can't reach 93!

  • jsweetcr
    1,209 Posts
    Thu, Jul 18 2013 7:13 PM

    I agree L92 would be fine and might even re energize me as it wouldn't be instant gratification i would have to work some for it but more achievable L93 by end of august aint happening for me

    Can' t see it dropping to 90 either unless something else came out at 93/94 after the LE R1 expired, but that doesn't really make sense either.

     

  • Jimbog1964
    8,378 Posts
    Sat, Jul 20 2013 12:06 PM

    Personally I think WGT have it about right with the iron's and wedges level wise.  Arguably there is small room for improvement with the G20 iron's by maybe increasing the 3 iron distance or perhaps an extra, slightly more expensive set doing that.  I think that would still keep the L79 Bladez and L90 R11s iron's relevant whilst not making scoring any easier than it is. I think most would agree we certainly do not want anything that makes scoring easier than the Bladez / R11s allow.  Anyway iron and wedge wise though things look about right. I know people often ask for more but, no offense to them, I have not seen a specific solution offered, bearing in mind what is already on offer.

    Woods wise though the Pro Shop becomes a shambles higher up talking just Legend+.  The main problem is that the level's get way far apart and any new player Legend sees this and think get stuffed.  Partly lower level Legends (happens in the 60s these days often enough) might be happier competing in a new tier as there is no way (with sensible reasoning applied) that the top clubs will go down there.  

    That still leaves a problem in the L80s.  Driver wise the G20 is good but the next step up is the R11 which adds only slight extra distance (and not in all conditions), but in a real risk / reward fashion for most. Some are better than other's with the R11, but talking just enjoyment all then look at the R11S at WAY OFF L94 which is not so risk / reward and better all round. The R1 is a great club, but taking nothing away from it is not some game changing bomb compared to the R11S or even R11. I think the R11 is now past it's shelf life and should be phased out for something a little more forgiving bearing in mind the attributes of the G20 / R11S.  Something else could easily replace it whilst still keeping the G20 and R11S relevant. After the current (great stuff) promotion ends I think the R11S should then be moved to L92 and the R1 to L95.  Everything would be relevant and sell I think whilst still keeping player's interest in basic offering's.  Any specials, like the current R1 promotion, are received well and should be encouraged.

    3 wood wise? Again I do not think WGT are all far off levels wise.  The G20 3 wood is good but IMHO opinion the R11S has it, and at the least offers a good alternative.  As a L93 player I would like the L95 one I think for the long Par 3s if it holds the better, but the L85 is good for now. Again any special promotion's should happen now and then.

    I think after this a good point is that WGT have generally dropped the ball on making people strive to do better.  Legend now means not much and that is a shame.  I think that new lower level tier would allow good competition for talented people learning the tips, and no risk of sandbaggiing if it converted to full Legend at a given say L79 and/OR a certain average.  Think of all the forum talk for the talented few that achieve full Legend before L79 under that system.  Still on the topic of encouraging of making people strive for more (therefore play more from a business perspective) would be to open everything up for TL which is still not easy to get, and nor should it be.  Being TL does not, in itself, make you some top player but it is a good achievement and so again should be actively seen to be being encouraged.

    Off topic a little and I have said this elsewhere over time in pieces, but knowing the mods read stuff wanted to put it down succinctly:)

    EDIT: Maybe if the mods remind the brass this is not meant to be some slog to earn a Green Beret (equipment wise).  It's a computer game mostly played for fun. Maybe the mods disagree? 

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  • chris5214
    1,937 Posts
    Sat, Jul 20 2013 2:21 PM

    all excellent points .. and to the OP, Jim, Courtney et all, who agree that the driver issue beyond lvl 90 for Legends + are a joke, please contribute this to "Alanti's" new suggestion thread under Product Suggestions .. the more people who voice this under a unified thread, the better.

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