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Re: Shot shaping and your method(s)

• chris5214 1,937 Posts

  Mon, May 28 2012 11:16 AM

  Oldbayrunner:

   

  That only held true if you used the basic swing modes. I played the game for many years and starting with MS links 1999 or 2000 the addition of the Power Stroke meter, which most people switched to,  certainly had something to do with it. You could swing inside out for a drawing or outside in for fading, along with a host of  various stance adjustments and being able to open or closing the face of the club.

  this is the ONE feature that WGT should add IMO .. how 'bout it Icon .. any feedback ?

• YankeeJim 25,827 Posts

  Mon, May 28 2012 2:48 PM

  Oldbayrunner:

  You could swing inside out for a drawing or outside in for fading, along with the  various stance adjustments and being able to open or close the face of the club for shot adjustment. 

  That's exactly what I said. You didn't need to miss to steer the ball, you did it through the shot setup by adjusting the angle of the swing throught the ball. Missing the perfect hit was not what did it which is what you have to do here.

  I played Links for 10 years going back to the early 90s before finding this game. With or without shot shaping, this game trumps Links, in spades.  ;-)

• Oldbayrunner 1,774 Posts

  Mon, May 28 2012 4:41 PM

  Uh Yankee...This post; 

  "Their swing meter had nothing to do with it. The clubface and stance adjustments did it. Coupled with the lie factor, which you got to see, you still had to hit the prefect swing to get the right result."

  IMO Isnt exactly saying what you are saying in this one;

  That's exactly what I said. You didn't need to miss to steer the ball, you did it through the shot setup by adjusting the angle of the swing throught the ball. Missing the perfect hit was not what did it which is what you have to do here.

  Yes adjusting the swing angle from inside to outside and visa versa on the plane of the meter produces a fade or draw which is exactly what I mentioned and yes you didn't need to miss hit on the meter.

   Don't know why you are coming off as being argumentative when my main point is that it would be possible for this software programmed to be able to shape your shots without having to miss hit the meter. I don't believe I mentioned anywhere in my post I thought the other game better or as an attempt at comparing the two software.

  If you want to compare length of time using the Links game I started back in the 80's when it first came out as Links386 and owned and played every version up through MS links 2003 with at the time 33 courses.

  I prefer Wgt first and formost now due to being able to easily play other players online and the graphics I believe are better.

• YankeeJim 25,827 Posts

  Mon, May 28 2012 5:16 PM

  There is no argument here.You claimed Links used their meter to facilitate draws and fades and I corrected you-they did not. It was done through the shot setup and depended on hitting the bottom mark on the circle meter.

  "MSLinks golf has had real life golf  features for many years utilizing their meter for inside/outside swings creating fades and draws, "

  As for it not being too hard for WGT to figure out, apparently it is. This has been in demand for over 3 years and they actually used to have basic stance adjustments. IMO, ignorant as it is,without a download to install I doubt we'll see anything close to what Links was. 

  FWIW, the way it is here is quite effective, you just don't get to see the ball turn in mid flight. BPB #2 is a perfect example and now Olympic #10 is too.

• pillsy 489 Posts

  Mon, May 28 2012 5:21 PM

  piztaker:

  kensabre10:

  are you saying that we can adjust the player for stance? how is that done, am i missing something?

   

  You're missing nothing sir. Jim was talking about a different game entirely.

   

  that is correct for the free game.  but if you get the $10 subscription to the cheat package, player adjustment/alignment is one of the modifiers you can use

• Oldbayrunner 1,774 Posts

  Mon, May 28 2012 6:40 PM

   

  Re:

  "You claimed Links used their meter to facilitate draws and fades and I corrected you-they did not. It was done through the shot setup and depended on hitting the bottom mark on the circle meter."

   

  That only applied to the circular classic swing mode. The True Swing used a straight line similar to the Ez Swing with slices and hooks for non straight inside/outside movement and then the  Power StrokeSwing worked vastly different with a self slide back then forward motion to a mark for release with inside and outside swing motions with open and closed club faces that produced fades or draws. Using the Power Swing mode you couldn't select draw or fade in the shot setup options it had to be done with the swing motion.