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Re: Taking everything into account

• Oldbayrunner 1,774 Posts

  Thu, Oct 18 2012 6:49 AM

  LOL I ddin't make my 1st hole in one till two days before I made Legend and still haven't come close to a double eagle.

  Diego all sound advise. Another thing you can do is pla ether practice rounds with low wind or us the Course feature under WT community and play different holes from different courses. Play flat ones at first and get an average distance for each club with the ball you use. Then you can jot it down so you know the distances your clubs are hitting. With starter balls play close attention and take notes on the amount of roll you get on your approach shots as you can't get back spin with those.

  For head winds, tail winds and elevation I calculate a little different by dividing those by 3. Adding for up elevation and head wind, Subtracting for tail winds and down elevations Ie. 135 yds distance 10' elevation 12 mph head wind

  135 + Ele (10 / 3) +3 + HW (12 / 3) +4 = 142 

  So for these yds using a starter set you would need to use your 6i 50yd club. If you take 142 / 150 =94.6% So that is the percentage of your meter to use for the ball to hit that far. That is without taking into consideration the roll factor. So you would need to adjust for that. For this shot with that elevation the ball may land at around 136yds and roll to as much as 153 yds depending on the slope of the green.

  For side winds it is a little harder to calculate to be precise but play with a couple yds variation at first. Direct side wind is effected very little

  Another factor is if you use bottom on the ball it will knock off appx. 4-5 yds off your shot s you need to figure for that too. 

  As you read in the forums there are other calculations you can use to refine from that  later on as you get better equipment... hope this helps

• paulshack 281 Posts

  Thu, Oct 18 2012 9:35 AM

  use the KISS method

  keep it simple, stupid

  just keep playing and playing try to focus on what side of the ding your going to miss on ;)

  the more you play the more youll understand

   

  no formulas

• spence3 18 Posts

  Thu, Oct 18 2012 12:22 PM

  Lizard69:

  Hi Diego,

  Here's some advice you may find useful..this is tailored to my specific clubs (L83 G20's)

  every 3ft of elevation uphill I add a yd for driver down to 7i, 8i-PW I use only 65% of the uphill elevation and add those yards and with my wedges, I use 20% of the elevation and add those yards..This is an estimate as some holes play longer and shorter..

  Downhill, every 4ft down = 1 yard subtracted (again, some holes play longer/shorter and only practice will make perfect)

  for wind, I have 3 wind speed calculators 0-10mph, 11-20mph and 21+mph

  In your example, I would do the following, 

  106yd (8ft would fall into my pw 9i range) so I take 65% of that =5.20 ft, so I would add a yard and a half, or round it up to 2, if the wind is head-on at 15mph, I would go 15mph x.4 =6yds (Using a clockface, 12 and 6 are perfect head or tailwinds, I quarter a 10 or 11 o clock wind and again quarter it for a 2 or 10 o clock wind..

  So, 106 + 2 + 6 =114..so I would either add a few dots of topspin with my PW (rated 110) and it would be fairly close or I would choke back on a 9i (rated 120 full bs)

  The best thing you can do is go to BPB back 9, set stroke play mode to practice firstly with low wind, then moderate then heavy and then hit 'em, listen for the thump (Carry distance), do this with all your clubs and try a variety of spin combinations and soon you will have a much better idea of where ur going and what wind effect your specific club and ball combo has..

  Hope this helps,

  Andrew

  jesus christ!! now i know why some people are taking so long on their shots :)

• Lizard69 2,006 Posts

  Thu, Oct 18 2012 9:24 PM

  Spence,

  If 20-30 seconds per shot is "long" then I'm guilty as charged!!

  All the above is quick and easy when you have played a while, was trying to give Diego some basic starting advice..

  I'll assume by the smiley face at the end of your post that you were joking, if not, I'll play you anytime, anywhere and we can see who is quicker and more importantly, who wins :)

  Peace,

  Andrew

• mantis0014 8,946 Posts

  Fri, Oct 19 2012 5:58 AM

  DiegoCorreia28:

   For example, a shot 106yds long, 15 wind headways, with an elevation of 8 higher that where you are hitting. How do you take all that into account amd calculate the distance? I saw the tips for wind (though I´d love to know about 3 ou 9 o´clock winds, how much do you add horizontaly?) but not for elevation. Add 1 yard per foot?

   Eager for advices and hoping to see you in the fields soon,

   

   Diego

   

  When your just starting out....   I would just add the 2 figures together ....  106+15=121yrds.

  With Heavy Cross winds....   Off the Tee on Par3's , treat em like tailwinds... the ball will go further than you think.

  Elavation... same thing... add/subtrack the 2 figures together...   150yrd to flag with 15 uphill elavation = 165 yrds... or 150 - 15 downhill = 135 yrds.

  Just trial and error, take notes.

  As I said before... when you first start out... keep it it simple and enjoy the game :)

  -Roger

   

• DiegoCorreia28 3 Posts

  Fri, Oct 19 2012 6:59 AM

   Thanks to all of you I´m starting to get the feel of things I think... one concept I personally took some time to understand is that in some shots the ball will simply no land where you aimed.. it will land BEFORE and roll there.. so if the flag is on the very edge of the green, you probably won´t get there by hitting the exact distance..

   ...or something along those lines.. LOL

   Just made amateur! So I guess something is going right, no?

   Thanks again to all who helped

• Choppography 2,166 Posts

  Fri, Oct 19 2012 7:13 AM

  Elevation is 3:1.  Wind is 2:1.  Nuff said.

  158yds uphill 16ft and downwind 8mph.  158 + 5(16/3) - 4(8/2) = 159 yds.

  Start there and tweak as you play.

• spence3 18 Posts

  Fri, Oct 19 2012 9:04 AM

  Lizard69:

  Spence,

  If 20-30 seconds per shot is "long" then I'm guilty as charged!!

  All the above is quick and easy when you have played a while, was trying to give Diego some basic starting advice..

  I'll assume by the smiley face at the end of your post that you were joking, if not, I'll play you anytime, anywhere and we can see who is quicker and more importantly, who wins :)

  Peace,

  Andrew

  yeah i was joking, so your post was a little redundant. never mind......