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Sun, Nov 21 2010 8:57 PM (25 replies)
  • RWensleydale
    4 Posts
    Thu, Oct 21 2010 5:51 PM

    Wouldnt having the meter run on the players PC leave it vulnerable to cheating? I'm sure some smart kid would hack it so they hit the sweet spot everytime, or perhaps slow it down to make it easier.

  • YankeeAirPirate
    124 Posts
    Fri, Oct 22 2010 12:44 PM

    And what if it was even necessary to "cheat" to make hitting the sweet spot easier? The parallel between the physical demands of "real" golf and this online simulation of the game is terribly strained if "hitting the sweet spot" in real life is equated to the reflexes and musculature of one's index finger.

    A prime example of where this parallel fails is in putting. Everyone knows that the one skill that old farts like me (66) have developed that keeps us in the game is the putter. But with the current swing meter at WGT, it's the teenager with lightning reflexes who rules the putter, and all other clubs for that matter. Attitude would seem to be: Advantage youth -- get lost, Oldtimer.

    This online game should be a mental challenge, not one that favors hand-eye coordination and reflexes. It's game enough to do the mental calculus for what the terrain and elements dictate for the best club choice, power and shot-shaping (spin and draw-fade) without throwing in the "gotcha" of a balking-skipping swing meter, or for that matter, a swing meter that strongly favors the young over the older (reflexes), even young adults. Let me plug in actual numbers, percentages, for club selection, aiming point, power and shot-shaping and I'll whup any kid's butt. Throw in the reflexes gotcha, not a chance.

    I'd definitely be more inclined to stick with WGT if I thought they were considering a downloadable swing meter module, whether it was subject to tinkering or otherwise. As it is, I've about had it with WGT and have already vowed that I've made my last deposit until I see such development either achieved or promised.

  • YankeeAirPirate
    124 Posts
    Sun, Nov 21 2010 6:28 PM

    Anybody know if cassman ever followed through with an improved swing meter device? If so, how does one get it?

  • borntobesting
    9,762 Posts
    Sun, Nov 21 2010 7:40 PM

    RWensleydale:

    Wouldnt having the meter run on the players PC leave it vulnerable to cheating? I'm sure some smart kid would hack it so they hit the sweet spot everytime, or perhaps slow it down to make it easier.

    many have tried to cheat and have cheated but they are all gone. Once caught and they do get caught they are banned. Ask yourself is it worth it?

     

  • Canada15
    84 Posts
    Sun, Nov 21 2010 7:55 PM

    okay air pirate...  ya i agree the game shud be based on the mental ability of course management and smart playing.  I have problems with this game bc my computer isnt exactly the smoothest running in the world, and im a young guy.  but please dont go on saying "old ppl are more intelligent."  lol id like to see you do my university calculus and physics work.

    personally, i would enjoying playing a round of golf with you in real life.  im positive that my understandng of the overall game is golf is equal to or better than yourself, and im a 20 yr old.  My handicap is 2.  Whats yours?  Can you even shape a shot in real life? ( the 60+ 200 yrd fade down the fairway doesnt count.)

    and relating back to wgt, if i had equal to ur clubs, and a better computer i can guarantee you id give you a run with the course management and physics involded in this game.  So dont go stereotyping young ppl as a bunch of computer hacks, bc some of us can beat you on the golf course as well (and not just bc of our physical ability).

  • YankeeAirPirate
    124 Posts
    Sun, Nov 21 2010 8:57 PM

    Spoken like a true 20 year-old Canuck. You missed the point entirely, went for the cheap ad hoc, complained about something that I didn't say, and spent nearly all of the posting talking about yourself. Sorry, but I'm not interested.

    The age differentiation that should (or as whiz-bang calculus students would have it, "shud") be obvious to all is that the WGT game's swing meter HEAVILY favors the 20 year-old's reflexes and hand-eye coordination (hardly a prime factor in real golf) and thus HEAVILY handicaps the more senior players -- the ones with all the extra time on their hands to be playing games and the spare change to be doing it.

    Couple that with the obvious fact that the swing meter programming is an abject failure and should be abandoned in favor of a more stable and equitable system and you have a "get lost, oldtimer" environment. As a business-owner myself, I'd call that a bad business strategy.

    A swing meter can be done right. I don't know how they did it, but the meter at Tiger Woods PGA Tour is rock solid. And that's where I'll be going once my credits run out here. I've made my last deposit at WGT, barring a MAJOR improvement in the swing meter. The graphics at Tiger Woods PGA are lame compared to WGT, and I'll miss it here -- GREAT concept, but I won't miss getting screwed by programming  numbskullery that the owners seem to have no interest in fixing.

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