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Re: Do you chip?

• gr8flbob 592 Posts

  Sun, Feb 16 2014 3:13 PM

  YankeeJim:

  gr8flbob:

  Pebble CTTH, the 10 - 12 yd downhill 'Watson shot' from just off green: CG 64 wedge, pitch shot, spin dot just buried in grass, 80 - 85% power (depending on green speed and wind) and - BINGO - you'll be within 2 ft once you have it down - have at least 3 or 4 hole-outs on that shot.

  Try the 60W flop-fbs, full swing, hit the line before the ding without touching the aim. 1-2 feet every time.  :-)

  Here's my internal metaphor, YJ: WGT 'early' = IRL closed club-face and WGT 'late' = IRL club-face open at impact. so by hitting that early line with Flop mode, you've hit a modified pitch/flop heading left off  of aim point - that Pebble hole breaks right and is downhill a bit so ... you and I end up in about the same spot, lol. 

  Gotta love different paths to the same goal, both achieving the desire result.

• YankeeJim 25,827 Posts

  Sun, Feb 16 2014 3:22 PM

  Ever since the Satin 64W was introduced it has been common knowledge that missing the flop shot to the first line before the ding not only offsets the natural flop flight to the right, it lands on the triangle. LOL. Is the only reason I can still use a shot I replaced with pitches and chips. It still holds true.

   My actual first shots on that PB hole was with the 60W pitch, fbs, adjust the miss based on the wind direction. The nice thing about the flop is it's always inside 2 feet.  :-)

   

  p.s., This is a great example of having more than one way to do something. It pays nice dividends to have those choices. 

• SHRUDE 5,835 Posts

  Thu, Feb 20 2014 9:03 PM

  YankeeJim:

  missing the flop shot to the first line before the ding not only offsets the natural flop flight to the right, it lands on the triangle.

   

  Also hitting the ding but aiming to the left of your target allows the ball to land much softer.

   

  Yes I chip, absolutely. I may not be much good at it but I will chip when i am on the fringe or fairway close to the pin.

  I love flops.

  I also may be found punching a shot 50yards

• Proruff 94 Posts

  Tue, Feb 25 2014 5:56 PM

  Chinajohn:

  YankeeJim:

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  For instance, a CG64w pitches 17 and will roll to about 21 on flat, no spin. (Think of the shot from behind the pin on BPB4.)  With fbs that shot will stop at 17. With fts it will roll to 25. All of a sudden you have one shot that covers 8 yards with some serious accuracy! That's pretty powerful.  :-)

  Darn it YJ! 

  Now I'm going to have to go to a flat green and mulligan to heck and back a sleeve of balls! Thanks! ;-)

  Don't suppose you can recommend a good flat green to practice on?

  I was following this thread a couple of weeks ago, and did just that on St. A's #9. 

  I mulliganed myself to death with all three CG16's in my inventory and averaged out the distances.  Since then, I think I've lowered my average at least two strokes pitching and chipping at St. A's (including a couple eagles)!  (Didn't do so well today though LOL.)

  Now I just have to try what I've learned on the other courses (with my confidence level way up).

  Thanks all for a very informative thread.

   

   

• gr8flbob 592 Posts

  Wed, Mar 5 2014 2:07 PM

  Proruff, if you didn't go through the exercise all of the CG wedges in Punch shot mode, go through the exercise again, starting with no-spin shots. and then making slight top spin and backspin adjusts to observe impact on carry vs. roll.

  Each loft has its own characteristic behavior, but all of them are very exact for distance from 80% - 100% power. Because of the spin generated by the CG clubs, using only very minor spin adjustments can make the ball dance - either forward or back after landing - to your command. An added benefit to punches is that corrections for elevation and wind are simpler - 3 ft elev is 1 yd +/- and 10mph wind offset is about 2 yds with the CG- 64 degree/50yd punch and increases to ~4 yds with the CG 54 deg 84yd punch club. Note that impact from cross-winds is cut nearly in half, compared Full shot mode! I call punch shots 'wind-tamers', lol

  No-spin with flat landing area, the 64 deg lob wedge carries 50 yds and backs up a couple of feet, the 60deg 68 punch stops dead at 68 yds, the 56 Deg punch carries 84 yds with 1 or 2 yd roll out. 

  Use with care if landing slopes down going away (Oak #1, long right pin, for example) or to highly elevated greens (BPB #2 or BPB#15, for example), because of the lower trajectory of punch shots.