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Re: Call me crazy. Please.

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Sun, Mar 30 2014 3:08 PM (8 replies)
  • GlassMan27
    573 Posts
    Fri, Mar 28 2014 2:27 PM

    Little backstory... 7 birdies to get to -7 after 7 in my second round of the GolfNow. 8th tee everything goes south. Don't have any video, so not gonna bore you with details. Replays are usually useless as you cannot see what club was hit on an approach. This replay, though, I personally do believe shows what was going on:

    replay.aspx?ID=e3f02a14 ed64 48da 9fb3 a2fc00f07a61

    You can see I had an iron (3i) in my hand. Though it's mainly a crosswind, it is a little in my face. You'll have to take my word that I used what I consider 7/8 backspin, hit a bit under full power and missed ding just a touch late. Is it just me or is that an awful lot of carry (no matter how much b/s is used) for that shot? If this is a normal outcome, it'll make it a lot easier for me to just admit I forgot how to play, because of the overwhelming pressure of a possible top 70 finish in a 'major',  on the 8th tee. Finished the round -8 with my lone birdie coming on 16...

    Cheers

  • PaulTon
    10,731 Posts
    Fri, Mar 28 2014 2:56 PM

    Sorry Glass but I don't watch crazy people's videos online.

  • bigbluedonkey
    59 Posts
    Fri, Mar 28 2014 4:44 PM

    You're clearly crazy... ok...lol

    I'd have used full backspin on that shot because: correct me if I'm wrong but pin is slightly below tee level and green slopes away  to the back. Full bspin might have reduced the flight just enough for it to have sat down earlier.

    It's the little things that count in this weird and wonderful game.

    That said I felt the 'GolfNow' comp was playing strange, I didn't post a score because: front 9 played fine, reached -7 twice. Then the back 9, lucky if I made a single birdie...

    'GolfNow' no thank you.....

     

    Cheers, BBD

  • GlassMan27
    573 Posts
    Fri, Mar 28 2014 8:41 PM

    Can't blame ya. It's got me in trouble a time or two...

  • lonniescott711
    4,206 Posts
    Fri, Mar 28 2014 9:00 PM

    Actually , it usually plays that way , when going to the right of the pin . On that shot its better to use full b/s , and ding the shot . Then it comes inside left and  short of the pin . From there , you should get a left to right break , birdie putt .. But also remember , if you were compensating for wind , you may not have gotten the wind . Which is also why it went so long . You can only trust the wind meter about half as much as the caddy .

  • Steve2golf
    930 Posts
    Fri, Mar 28 2014 9:56 PM

    Does not matter what you post, what you say, the typical response is that shot always plays that way, that hole plays that way etc.....Most of us know that is total BS, there is not a hole on here I have not stuffed tight, including the 1 in the replay with that hole position and by playing it dead on the numbers as well. Yes there are a few holes holes that report the wrong yardage by 3 or so yards, but only a few over what the 10 courses. Certainly not every hole someone happens to post a replay for.

    But I'm not here to bit-ch about that, or to support your being screwed therory, I'm here to help you and others get over it and move on.

    The fact of the matter, if you had been on 1 birdie, then that shot as you say, leaves about a 20 footer out to the right. Had everything gone as planned. With a 4 head wind at about 7:30 it would need about a 232 yard shot, the 3 iron has the ability to blow over that green if the right spin was not applied, however I know that not always the right spin gets registered, just as not always the right club gets registered, as the same goes for not always the intended aim gets registered also.That IMHO is the VEM, or the programmed in mistake. Could be more or less wind also.

    Plenty of things can and do go wrong, the game is not perfect.

    I played a decent round in the golf now, and I thought things were going south for me as well, when I managed par on 11, 12, 13 and 14, after birdies 3 though 10 with and eagle on 2, no matter how much aim I applied to my putts they went straight at the hole like I never aimed a thing.

    You need to realize as I have, that errors are part of this game, Some will not admit this fact, and will jump to quickly to always blame the user. But it is a fact, something likely went wrong, something always goes wrong especially when the screws get tighter. Some blame it on VEM and some other mysterious force, I have even been guilty of this as well, till I started to do some analytical thinking to this. Artificial intelligence has not been perfected yet, and certainly not in a rudimentary platform such as flash. So if you were to program the game, and you wanted it to be less then perfect, what would you do, you would likely do as I would do, and program in the mistakes.

    So with that in mind, what do you do, well IMHO You just need to slow down, and what I found to work for me lately is just slow down, and slow down a lot and double do everything. Double up on club selection, and spin setting and aim. Do these two or three times in multiple views. Even then the errors still occur, but it can help limit how many holes the errors occur for. Try to make sure the server knows your club, and your spin for sure, it may say one thing, but that is no guarantee. i.e, i will set my club both with the mouse wheel and clicking on the club, I will set my aim in reverse view and touch it again in forward view, or vice versa, and sometimes even use the mini map as a third, and I will move the spin slowly and methodically after zooming in on the ball.

    Hope this helps other mere mortals, because not everyone gets the perfect round all the time, even if played perfectly, the game has been programmed to do just that, but if you slow down, you can save a good one "maybe". Sometimes nothing works, but if you slow down, things just might start clicking again.

  • PaulTon
    10,731 Posts
    Sat, Mar 29 2014 3:58 PM

    GlassMan27:

    Can't blame ya. It's got me in trouble a time or two...

    lol nice 1

  • TWOMINUSONE
    2,580 Posts
    Sat, Mar 29 2014 4:20 PM

    Honestly, i didnt know there was a 3 iron that would carry 237 yards at the point of contact with the ground (3 wood kind of stuff) with 7/8's of backspin applied in the game, especially with a slight headwind, and a slight less than full power. That kind of shot for me would normally result in a 10 to 15 yard loss with that backspin (using the 250 credit level 33 callys). So i can honestly say i would be pissed off with this result as well.

  • GlassMan27
    573 Posts
    Sun, Mar 30 2014 3:08 PM

    TWOMINUSONE:
    Honestly, i didnt know there was a 3 iron that would carry 237 yards at the point of contact with the ground

    Either my club change didn't register, or I was being 'punished' for the start I had in a round I was not supposed to score well in... hole 8 on out was loaded with similar shots. I play very close to that same shot every time (wind dependent) I play that hole and have never had one carry like that. IMO- that shot should not have carried anywhere near as far as it did. 

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