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Re: front of sa#6 green

• longball2006 60 Posts

  Mon, Oct 18 2010 5:19 PM

  i was 51 feet away, and 20" below the hole.  Hit 60' putt full...ball went 63'.  Is there something wrong with that picture?  That is the only hole that does not affect the putt compared to other holes like that one.

• Rickypro 559 Posts

  Mon, Oct 18 2010 8:01 PM

  51 feet, add about 10 feet for the 20" uphill.  Need about 60 feet of power to get there.  That is just about exactly how I would have hit it myself.

   

  I see now that you would be playing Tournament greens.   Yea, that does seem a little off.

• christomento 31 Posts

  Mon, Oct 18 2010 8:09 PM

  For putts longer than 40', I reducing the distance by at least 10% of very fast greens.  Also at this distance, change in elevation does seem to matter very much.  Makes no sense, but if you had hit at somewhere between 45 to 50', you would had been within 3 feet of the hole

• CharlemagneRH 1,054 Posts

  Mon, Oct 18 2010 8:18 PM

  tournament green = 54.5 ft of power
  VF green = 57 ft of power

  Remember, estimation formulas that you might see on the forums are merely educated guesses based upon observation.  WGT does not write their code to adhere to these formulas, but rather people write the formulas to approximate much more complicated results.

• longball2006 60 Posts

  Tue, Oct 19 2010 7:36 PM

  I understand completely.  Consider this.  On a flat, tournament speed green, a 30' putt will travel approx. 38 feet.  A 60' putt - 77 feet...and so on.  I have also observed that at 30', a 6 or 7" incline will mean that said 30' putt will go right about 30'.  Therefore...1" per foot more/less...

   

  at 51' and +20", a 60' putt, struck purely should only go 55-57' MAX.  Not 63'.

• CharlemagneRH 1,054 Posts

  Tue, Oct 19 2010 7:56 PM

  longball2006:

  I understand completely.  Consider this.  On a flat, tournament speed green, a 30' putt will travel approx. 38 feet.  A 60' putt - 77 feet...and so on.  I have also observed that at 30', a 6 or 7" incline will mean that said 30' putt will go right about 30'.  Therefore...1" per foot more/less...

   

  at 51' and +20", a 60' putt, struck purely should only go 55-57' MAX.  Not 63'.

  Your equation will break down in severe uphill putts.  It wasn't bad luck or some sort of STA #6 quirk; it's always like that.

• CharlemagneRH 1,054 Posts

  Wed, Oct 20 2010 10:29 PM

  I am doing very crappy in my STA F9 RG, and I left my approach short on STA #6, and I just got this putt.  Mine is 53 ft, up 20 inches, from the fringe, on tournament greens.

  Mine is a little longer and from the fringe, so I put in 58.5 ft of power, or 97.5%, on the 60 ft power meter.  This is almost exactly what I said I'd use in my previous post, except with an additional 1.5 ft of power for the 2 ft extra distance and another additional 2 ft since I'm putting from the fringe.

  Here is the result: http://www.wgt.com/replay.aspx?ID=1ac3ec4e-7d55-43bb-a3b0-9e16005a4fd7