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Re: Issue with aiming triangle

• JLeary1 416 Posts

  Mon, Dec 22 2014 1:06 PM

  Hi,

  don't really think this is a bug, but anyway, more of a gameplay issue..

  I was playing on Bandon Dunes today, can't remember the hole number. The green was bordered on the left by a sharp cliff that dropped off significantly, and there was a 20-22 Mph crosswind from left to right.

  The issue was that when moving the aiming triangle, I had to move it out over the cliff to have the right lateral distance / angle for the wind, but the problem was that as soon as I moved it 2/3 of the needed distance to the left that I would normally move the aiming triangle for this wind and distance, the triangle snapped to the bottom of the cliff-face, but it was some strange distance different than pin high. In the end, the resultant angle was all wrong as the aiming triangle snapping to the cliff-face meant it was impossible to aim to the left properly, and the ball ended up over the cliff.

  The issue is not the lost ball, but how/can it be done that the aiming marker is kept roughly pin/green high?

  In this case, once you move the marker 30 degrees left or so, the marker ends up too many yards further away, down a cliff, many many yards below the hole, and the assessment of the correct angle for the marker goes "out the window".

  I've never had this problem before. There aren't many holes with cliffs (Cabo Del Sol is the only one I can think of).

  Does this make sense?

  What does anyone else think, or have you experienced this?

  Thanks.

  Justin.

• alosso 21,070 Posts

  Mon, Dec 22 2014 1:38 PM

  After some *coughs* experience, it's a question of awareness.

  When moving the marker, it's frequently hopping closer to the avatar, thus leading to strange distance / angle issues. Is that what you meant?

  I haven't discovered the reasons to their full extent, but for me, it's always good to pull the marker further away. For a 150 yds shot, it's rather 300 yds than 90.

• ZioMio 4,680 Posts

  Mon, Dec 22 2014 1:49 PM

  JLeary1:

  What does anyone else think, or have you experienced this

  I think that you may have been aiming in an OB area.

  JLeary1:

  The issue is not the lost ball,

  Shots of this nature would require an off-ding hit. JMO, I may be wrong.

• JLeary1 416 Posts

  Mon, Dec 22 2014 2:01 PM

  Yes, that is exactly what I meant, alosso.

  Thanks. You're right. I was thinking later what it is that threw my aim off, and when the marker went "down the cliff", it changed it's distance from pin high, that's all.

  You are right, it is just experience / awareness, I must so rarely have distance changes with my marker that I am accustomed to seeing it almost always at pin-level.

  For me, a 30 degrees left angle much closer to me looks like less than 30 degrees than pin high, but 100 yards past the hole the angle still looks about right, due to parallax..

  But I think what threw me was that the aiming marker was 150 yards below me / the hole..

  Anyway, I guess wgt have the marker align to the ground terrain so you can tell elevation at different spots.. It is just that in this case I have no need to know that the cliff bottom is 150 yards below me (except that I will know that my ball is gone if it lands there, lol)..

• JLeary1 416 Posts

  Mon, Dec 22 2014 2:03 PM

  ZioMio:

  JLeary1:

  What does anyone else think, or have you experienced this

  I think that you may have been aiming in an OB area.

  JLeary1:

  The issue is not the lost ball,

  Shots of this nature would require an off-ding hit. JMO, I may be wrong.

   

  Interesting. Yes ZioMio, it was Out of bounds area. I lost my ball there. So only an off-ding shot would work here? Be curious to hear more. If I understand you correctly, the aiming marker cannot be moved further once it hits an Out of Bounds area? That is useful to know if you are right.

• alosso 21,070 Posts

  Mon, Dec 22 2014 2:13 PM

  JLeary1:

  Anyway, I guess wgt have the marker align to the ground terrain so you can tell elevation at different spots..

  A lot of truth in this, just misleading if you don't seek the bottom.

  JLeary1:

  It is just that in this case I have no need to know that the cliff bottom is 150 yards below me (except that I will know that my ball is gone if it lands there, lol)..

  What I said...

• YankeeJim 25,827 Posts

  Mon, Dec 22 2014 2:21 PM

  JLeary1:

  What does anyone else think, or have you experienced this?

  Yes, I have and I know exactly what you''re talking about.  It's the hole that's the current background for the game client. If you have to aim left, like in a 20-22 wind, you can't aim hole high far enough left because the game won't let you aim in mid air.

  I timed out in an AS match with a 60 second timer trying to get the aim right there. As you move the aim off the cliff it jumps back to the closet ground point and that's around 180. Best I can come up with is aim from the front as far as you can and visualize the extension of the blue line.

• JLeary1 416 Posts

  Tue, Dec 23 2014 1:01 AM

  Thanks YankeeJim - you summed up exactly the problem and where it is. Your workaround sounds like what we have to do.

  Cheers.

  Justin

• nanstar 4,914 Posts

  Tue, Dec 23 2014 1:40 AM

  I have noticed a similar (the same?) phenomenon also occurs on one of the holes at the Olympic Club.

  Not sure which one it is .. (on the B9 I think)

  But the blue aim marker won't settle on the green (in reverse view)

  It just extends out, uncontrollably, via a long red line into eternity, lol

• donsprintr 2,063 Posts

  Tue, Dec 23 2014 3:18 AM

  The same thing happens on St. Andrews #16, to the right of the fairway. It won't allow you to aim any further right than the OB line .... won't allow you to aim right of the road ... all you can do if you have a big right to left wind there is aim as far right as possible,and miss ding late to bring the ball back onto the fairway ...