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Re: low averages

• HorsheinNumcok 33 Posts

  Tue, May 3 2016 3:00 AM

  Just looked at your score history and it's pretty average. Hard to find a sub 30 on nine holes anywhere.

  Perhaps those "red tee wankers" you so eloquently described, did the same and decided not to take your money off you in an unfair competition.

• hakman123 2,119 Posts

  Tue, May 3 2016 3:36 AM

  Sometimes it is fun to set up a CC tournament from roughly the same tee locations as used in a particular major, or  pro am.  This is a great use of the customized tee options.

• EasyEdward 13,507 Posts

  Tue, May 3 2016 8:02 AM

  The US Open at Chambers Bay was not played exclusively from the Championship Tees.  In fact each day was different.Setting the course up the way it was played is a lot closer to reality....

  I translated each days rounds into the closest WGT tee setting.  In the chart E = Easy tee /  M = medium tee /  H = Hard tee / C = Championship (Hardest) tee setting.

  Let's see if this chart works when posted.

   

  US Open
  Hole	Day 1	T	Day 2	T	Day 3	T	Day 4	T
  1	501	H	559	C	499	H	443	M
  2	387	H	399	H	399	H	412	C
  3	148	M	198	C	166	M	188	H
  4	475	E	495	E	509	M	479	E
  5	503	C	488	C	498	C	462	H
  6	494	H	495	H	515	C	493	H
  7	515	C	508	C	519	C	477	H
  8	602	C	602	C	603	C	593	C
  9	203	H	230	C	225	C	203	H
  Out	3828		3974		3933		3750
  10	427	H	468	C	473	C	460	H
  11	541	C	537	C	530	C	541	C
  12	317	C	304	C	311	C	270	C
  13	512	H	534	C	533	C	529	C
  14	528	H	546	C	534	C	519	H
  15	169	M	139	E	252	C	158	M
  16	385	H	423	C	372	H	337	E
  17	173	M	218	C	122	E	219	C
  18	617	C	525	M	577	C	601	C
  In	3669		3694		3704		3634
  Total	7497		7668		7637		7384

• patrickmar 245 Posts

  Tue, May 3 2016 9:15 AM

  MainzMan:

  There are quite a few red tee heroes around here but there are also many who have a genuinely low average.  The problem is average saturation.  Once you have a certain number of ranked rounds in your current tier your average only goes down so, eventually, nearly anyone can have a super low average.  Until they tier up again at least, which doesn't happen automatically once you reach champion.

  I agree 100% that doing it the red tee way is pathetic though

  Could not have said it better. Since it was so long for WGT to add another tier when a lot of us sat at tour legend for 2 years or more. Averages went way down. Then we only needed 200 rounds to advance champion. My average was mid 55's as TL and is even lower now as champion. And of late my putting is off and scores are up as you can see in my score histories. I haven't shot a 18 hole round lower then a  58 of late with no effect to my average, if i play 9 hole round and shoot a 28 or lower my average goes down.

  And moving to tour champion will only happen if you are an WGT employee as we have already seen this happen. There are a lot of players that i can think of that deserves to be Tour champion. And yes Mike (mbaggese) I open the can of worms again.

• ct690911 7,205 Posts

  Tue, May 3 2016 9:19 AM

  lonniescott711:

  What another player does is none of your business . I dont know why so many people feel that others have to play to please them . Whatever you do has no effect on my game play so I could care less . However they accomplish their goals then so be it .WGT allows it so no harm no foul .

  Worry about your own game and what you do as a player .Play the game and have fun and stop being so petty and trying to find faults with others .

  I fully agree ^^^. The only time I personally have an issue, is when people get suckered into playing for $$ or credits by a sand bagger, or some other form of cheater. It's often said "buyer beware", and this is true. Equally true is there are some elderly or naive people on here who can be duped. These are the same folks targeted by a variety of con artists.

  I'm sure many of us are scammed at times. People claiming to have fallen on hard times, so we gift them balls or clubs. I like to believe their stories are true, but probably not all of them are. C'est la vie.

  ct

• ct690911 7,205 Posts

  Tue, May 3 2016 9:32 AM

  brucereffett:

  what i think is not for your opinion or concern

  To whom are you speaking?...lol. It would be helpful if you addressed it to someone.

  As far as your post ^^^, when people pose an opinion, question, etc, in a public form, it is understood to be public business; else why put it in here?.

• 1,866 Posts

  Tue, May 3 2016 10:08 AM

  roozilla:

  Funny thing is i invited their so called top 5 players to a matchplay on their walls for 5000 credits they all refused to reply 

  Probably cause they know that 4000 is the max stake ;-)

• roozilla 630 Posts

  Tue, May 3 2016 7:22 PM

   

  HorsheinNumcok:

  Just looked at your score history and it's pretty average. Hard to find a sub 30 on nine holes anywhere.

  Perhaps those "red tee wankers" you so eloquently described, did the same and decided not to take your money off you in an unfair competition.

   

  oh yes

  most are from mindless clash in which I use a low level wgt ball that are given out

  as for second sentence of yours would it not make them want to play me for credits?

  I am using up all my crap balls at the moment to get rid of them.

• brucereffett 14 Posts

  Wed, May 4 2016 11:21 AM

  it is public , i asked why would one play tricked up course to show lower average when they surley cant play 53 by looks of there score history "  the offend one's replied none of my business , but when posted in my topic then it is my business , and my topic and not the haters or score cheaters , sorry some get offend but o well , my opinion not theres    lol

• skccvb 799 Posts

  Wed, May 4 2016 3:10 PM

  Could care less about averages. Mine is low because the only thing that interest me about stroke play is seeing how low the course will go if I don't fook up. Otherwise I am a 95% ALT shot only ie real com[petition in real time, and socializing, having a laugh, a triumph, a disappointment. Only time I bolt is when I see a 70- plus average- either a sandbagger or just not invested in the game. So there.:)