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Re: Flop Shot Offset

• garyk49 2,333 Posts

  Tue, Aug 16 2016 10:40 AM

   

  Main advantage of hitting the ding versus hitting the line before.  Ball spin tends to work better when you hit the ding.  But the above info is good to know, as I normally use the before ding line.

• SplashLewis 373 Posts

  Wed, Aug 17 2016 7:05 AM

  YankeeJim:

  SplashLewis:

  I very very rarely chip, i NEVER pitch

  You're missing out on a serious couple of shots, especially with your ball/wedge combo. Your 64W pitches 17 with fbs and is very easy to control.  Want more distance, release the spin in increments. It's really easy to learn. The 7 yard chip is too.  :-)

   

  Thanks Jim

  However, my flop shot is very accurate from 10yds to 25yds.  anything higher than that like 26yds to 45yds, i use full shot and add another 4% to 7% power

  I'll go to practice round, to give your suggestion a try though. just to have it in case flops stop working. :)

   

   

• YankeeJim 25,827 Posts

  Wed, Aug 17 2016 7:33 AM

  SplashLewis:

  I'll go to practice round, to give your suggestion a try though. just to have it in case flops stop working. :)

  I think you'll be surprised. Keep in mind the pitch carries about 2/3 of the way and you need to treat it like a putt from where it lands. GL  :-)

• Robert1893 7,729 Posts

  Wed, Aug 17 2016 7:38 AM

  While I used to use the flop shot a lot, I don't as much anymore. I use the pitch much more often (for anything less than 20 yards). And I rarely chip. Even for short distances (~5 yards), I'll use the pitch. It seems much more reliable and consistent than the chip.
  
  For yardages between 20 and 40 yards, I typically hit a full wedge with the percent between 50% to 70% or a punch shot using the chart found in this thread:
  
  http://www.wgt.com/forums/t/403805.aspx 

• IrmaLamy 2,981 Posts

  Wed, Aug 17 2016 8:17 AM

  Good info from above readings

  BUT keep in mind your wedges aren't just a 1 club use but mainly a multiple club for loads of usage from short to mid range approaches with a selections of options:

  - FULL shot  (good out of all situation and with quiet good control from long 2 mid range) use BS wisely

  - PUNCH shot (good out of trouble with full BS but must know your yardage to be accurate)

  - PITCH shot (mid 2 short range used w/full BS but same as above yardage touch)

  CHIP shot (shorter range and no BS at all or you take out lot to almost all of roll after landing)

  FLOP shot (shorter range and touch of BS to full but must know how much or it will stop dead - very good to overcome a good elevation)

  BUT mainly good practice will make you THE perfect short game player

  So a wedge is like having 5 clubs combined in 1

• lonniescott711 4,207 Posts

  Wed, Aug 17 2016 8:49 AM

  PaulTon:

  Most players I know (real good players, not hacks like me) adjust aimer for wind and then 'ding' on the line to the left of the actual ding line. It never fails.

     

  Im a miss ding player and have found the flop to be very useful . When hitting the flop I have found that the latest you want to hit it is where you see Pauls arrow anything after that you  will start to have a loss in distance . I use the entire darker blue area from the arrow backward is the ding area used for flops .

  If playing in high winds you move the marker as this changes the line of ball flight the same as when putting but you still click within the darker blue area of the meter . This is what works for me and it gets me to 5ft. or less of the pin .

   

• SplashLewis 373 Posts

  Wed, Aug 17 2016 5:22 PM

  YankeeJim:

   Keep in mind the pitch carries about 2/3 of the way and you need to treat it like a putt from where it lands. GL  :-)

  Which is why i dont use it.  I like the carry of flops and full shots.  less green to worry about.  to each his own  :)

   

   

• alanti 10,564 Posts

  Wed, Aug 17 2016 6:08 PM

  SplashLewis:

  YankeeJim:

   Keep in mind the pitch carries about 2/3 of the way and you need to treat it like a putt from where it lands. GL  :-)

  Which is why i dont use it.  I like the carry of flops and full shots.  less green to worry about.  to each his own  :)

   

   

  I know stats do not paint a true picture, but YJ has holed over 6 times more approach shots (a mix of around the green and from the fairway) but has played 3 times more RR's......that leads me to think pitch is a better option.

  I am not a flop hater - it does have its place and I use it on some courses and for some shots, but I have seen a lot more pitch shots holed than flops and I think most top players would say the same (I am not a top player).

• Robert1893 7,729 Posts

  Wed, Aug 17 2016 7:05 PM

  alanti:

  I am not a flop hater - it does have its place and I use it on some courses and for some shots, but I have seen a lot more pitch shots holed than flops and I think most top players would say the same (I am not a top player).

  I'm not a top player either, but I agree with this. I think the probability of holing a pitch shot is higher than holing a flop shot. That's why I've got away from flops and made an effort to learn how to hit the pitch shot better. 

• K7JBQ 1,469 Posts

  Wed, Aug 17 2016 8:09 PM

  To every thing, there is a season.

  Pitches, chips and flops are all shots you need to know, depending on the situation.

  True, the pitch (and the chip) give you a better shot at birdie, but the flop is often the best shot to save the par. There have been times I've used the flop from within 7 yards, just because of where I was in the rough, and the shot has saved my butt on most of them.