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Thu, Jan 5 2017 5:23 PM (19 replies)
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  • Robert1893
    7,719 Posts
    Wed, Jan 4 2017 6:46 AM

    Austinpowersgolf:
    As the pitch shot is almost useless in this game a


    Sorry to pile on, but the pitch shot is one of the best shots in the game. If you have decent clubs and balls and apply full backspin to a pitch, the shot is one of the best shots available to you, if you're just off the green.  

    If you learn how to properly use the pitch, you'll pretty much have tap-in putts after virtually every pitch. And you'll get a fair amount of holeouts on top of that.  

  • Vaibhav5viv
    886 Posts
    Wed, Jan 4 2017 6:51 AM

    Austinpowersgolf:
    This function has easily lost me over 40 games!

    I don't know what to say lmao

  • Robert1893
    7,719 Posts
    Wed, Jan 4 2017 6:52 AM

    alosso:
    Develop your own pre-shot routine!


    +1 

    Having a good pre-shot routine has saved me a number of shots. And not following it has cost me shots. Every time, I don't follow my pre-shot routine, I feel like this:


  • Robert1893
    7,719 Posts
    Wed, Jan 4 2017 6:54 AM

    Vaibhav5viv:
    I don't know what to say lmao

    Well, one thing we can say is that at least he can't complain about the inconsistency of the game! ;-) 

  • Robert1893
    7,719 Posts
    Wed, Jan 4 2017 10:03 AM

    Austinpowersgolf:
    I don't know where you are finding the virtual caddy. I play on a tablet so maybe that's different. I just wish it wouldn't select the pitch shot unless you are within 5 yds of green cause it won't clear much more than that and to activate it when you are 3yds away is ridiculous.  I do very well with wedges as I have yardage mapped.  So on the fence about hybrid.  Thanks for the suggestions though. 

    In the mobile version, I don't believe the virtual caddy can be disabled. As was suggested earlier in the thread, just develop a consistent pre-shot routine. 

    You really should seriously consider ditching the hybrid in favor of an extra wedge. If you look at most of the really good players on here, that's the approach they take. It's difficult to argue with their success.  

    By the way, do you play mostly coin games on the tablet? That would explain a lot because coin game matches have no effect on players' stats. That's why you're getting some of the responses you.

    People are looking at your scrambling stats and concluding that your short game needs a lot of work. But those stats may not accurately reflect your scrambling abilities, if you're playing only coin game matches. 

  • Austinpowersgolf
    7 Posts
    Wed, Jan 4 2017 10:37 AM

    Yes I have only been playing mostly coin games to try to get skills up. I'm usually pretty good about checking except in the heat of the moment usually after a bad shot, hence the need to pitch or chip. I guess I don't understand the argument against not having auto pitch disabled for the people who have commented as it wouldn't affect their pre shot routine and would help those of us not expecting a pitch shot from 30 yards out up a hill from the rough.  Guess I'm just too simple minded in relation to the pro'a above. 

    Still no real reason why we can't know speed of greens before round, for us mere mortals who occasionally miss the green on the first hole and have to chip/pitch or lob a shot onto the green not knowing how much to allow for roll out. 

    Anyone wishing to give me pitching lessons I'll give you a sleeve of balls if it's actual useful information  not hyperbole.  Talk is cheap

  • garyk49
    2,330 Posts
    Wed, Jan 4 2017 12:59 PM

    Austinpowersgolf:

      I do very well with wedges as I have yardage mapped.  So on the fence about hybrid.

    HEY NOW, the OP has 20 ranked rounds.  He certainly will know better then most of us here.

    OP, the PITCH is probably the best save your butt shot in this game.  And you won't do it with a HYBRID.

    But then again, I could be wrong, in my thinking.

     

     

     

  • YankeeJim
    25,827 Posts
    Wed, Jan 4 2017 1:12 PM

    Austinpowersgolf:
    So on the fence about hybrid.

    A simple test-how many times do you use that HB compared to the number of wedge shots you take? Your 3W will punch about the same distance for the 1 or 2 times you might use it in a round but that 3rd wedge increases your low end coverage dramatically and that short game is where you're going to drop your scores.

  • Robert1893
    7,719 Posts
    Wed, Jan 4 2017 6:39 PM

    Austinpowersgolf:
    Anyone wishing to give me pitching lessons I'll give you a sleeve of balls if it's actual useful information  not hyperbole.  Talk is cheap


    I can tell you what works for me. And I hope it helps. As an aside, we both use the Cleveland 64-degree (60-yard wedge), and we both play on the iPad.

    For pitches under 17 yards, (by the way, I never chip.), below is what has worked for me. But you have to remember that you still need to take into consideration the slope of the green (i.e. is there a severe slope around the green and is it upward or downward). With all of that in mind, here's the rule of thumb I go by. 

    First, I use full backspin on all pitch shots. Second, I always use a ball with good spin characteristics. The ball I currently use has 4 dots of spin. But I also had good success with the Callaway Chrome Soft (Level 33+), which has 3.5 dots of spin.

    Pitches of 8 yards or less: add 3 yards to the total and hit accordingly. In other words, I would hit an 8 yard pitch around 65%. The rating for the Cleveland wedge is 17 yards for the pitch. So (8 + 3)/17 = 64.7%.

    Pitches of 9 yards to about 13 yards, I add 2 yards to the total and hit accordingly. In other words, I would hit a 12 yard pitch around 82%; (12 + 2)/17 = 82.4%. For 14 yard or 15 yard pitches, I add 1 yard to the total. For 16 and 17 yard pitches, I don't add anything to the total. 

    By the way, there are times that I also use topspin. You're going to have to experiment and learn each hole. For example, for the 15th hole on Merion, if I'm just off the front of the green and the hole is the front location, I wouldn't use backspin in that situation. It might come right back at me. I put topspin on the ball for that shot. 

    For approach shots longer than 19 yards but shorter than 40 yards (approximately), I sometimes use a full shot or I use a punch shot. If I use a full shot, I add anywhere from 6 to 8 yards to the total.

    For example, a 30 yard shot would be struck as if it were 36 yards from the hole. Again, using the Cleveland wedge (it's a 60-yard wedge at 100%), I would hit it at 60%; (30 + 6)/60 = 60%. 

    If I choose to hit a punch shot, I follow the chart at this link:

    http://www.wgt.com/forums/p/403805/2786352.aspx#2786352

    There are times that I also use a flop shot. That's especially so if there's a severe downward slope around the hole. For flops, more often than not, I go by feel.

    For a lot of other advice, see the Pinhunters webpages:

    http://shortgrass123.wixsite.com/pinhunters

    I hope you find all of that helpful. And by the way, everything that I've posted above, I've learned by reading these forums and taking the advice of others as well as staying patient and practicing a lot. I think I've been able to have some decent success.

  • Robert1893
    7,719 Posts
    Thu, Jan 5 2017 5:23 PM

    @Austinpowersgolf:

    Thanks for the gift! That was very gracious of you.  

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