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Re: Putters, which is better?

• lonniescott711 4,207 Posts

  Tue, Mar 14 2017 9:09 AM

  @ Mathia   The punch can be used to get out of bunkers or rough . Its also a great go to on approach shots . You have the top 3 Cleveland wedges:

  L76+ 56w- 100 yrds. punch 84 yrds

  L78+ 60w - 80 yrds punch 64 yrds

  L80+64w-60 yrds.punch 50 yrds

  Depending on the ball you use the yardages will be slightly different so you will have to practice to find your true yardages . I use the punch when I find myself within the distances to the pin and I dont want to power down on a full wedge . Its great for when you find yourself in between your clubs on approach shots . Its also a great go to for shots in head winds and you want to keep the shot low .

  The best way to learn the punch shot is practice . I started with practice stroke play and used the rock just to get the basics down and to also learn how . Once I got comfortable with it then I began to use my main ball so I could apply it to my game . Although you can punch with all of your clubs I personally use it for approach shots and occasionally with long irons on courses like St.Andys or George .

  So do stroke play practice rounds and learn how to hit and use the punch shot . Use the rock first and go play all of the courses so you can see how it will play on that course . Try it from the rough the bunkers and the fairways for approach shots and be sure to use the mulligan and just learn the shot . This is how you learn the how when and the where .

  Once you get to where you can hit the punch with good results on a fairly consistant basis then you play some practice rounds using your main ball . The yardages will be different but you will have a starting point to begin with and the adjustment wont take that long . There are other threads on the punch shot  just use the search box and ask as well . You already know that there is plenty of help here to point and guide you in the right .

  Also do the same thing with learning the pitch shot to improve your game . This is the process for a better game . Once you learn those 2 and addthem to your game then you will find that getting closer to the pin is easier and the putts will be too . Hope this helps you out and good luck with your game ..

• mathia14 1,271 Posts

  Tue, Mar 14 2017 9:28 AM

  lonniescott711:

  @ Mathia   The punch can be used to get out of bunkers or rough . Its also a great go to on approach shots . You have the top 3 Cleveland wedges:

  L76+ 56w- 100 yrds. punch 84 yrds

  L78+ 60w - 80 yrds punch 64 yrds

  L80+64w-60 yrds.punch 50 yrds

  Depending on the ball you use the yardages will be slightly different so you will have to practice to find your true yardages . I use the punch when I find myself within the distances to the pin and I dont want to power down on a full wedge . Its great for when you find yourself in between your clubs on approach shots . Its also a great go to for shots in head winds and you want to keep the shot low .

  The best way to learn the punch shot is practice . I started with practice stroke play and used the rock just to get the basics down and to also learn how . Once I got comfortable with it then I began to use my main ball so I could apply it to my game . Although you can punch with all of your clubs I personally use it for approach shots and occasionally with long irons on courses like St.Andys or George .

  So do stroke play practice rounds and learn how to hit and use the punch shot . Use the rock first and go play all of the courses so you can see how it will play on that course . Try it from the rough the bunkers and the fairways for approach shots and be sure to use the mulligan and just learn the shot . This is how you learn the how when and the where .

  Once you get to where you can hit the punch with good results on a fairly consistant basis then you play some practice rounds using your main ball . The yardages will be different but you will have a starting point to begin with and the adjustment wont take that long . There are other threads on the punch shot  just use the search box and ask as well . You already know that there is plenty of help here to point and guide you in the right .

  Also do the same thing with learning the pitch shot to improve your game . This is the process for a better game . Once you learn those 2 and addthem to your game then you will find that getting closer to the pin is easier and the putts will be too . Hope this helps you out and good luck with your game ..

  Another thing is how to figure how much harder to hit to an elevated green.

• Robert1893 7,722 Posts

  Tue, Mar 14 2017 9:55 AM

  mathia14:

  Another thing is how to figure how much harder to hit to an elevated green.

  
  
  Conventional wisdom is +1 yard for every +3 feet of elevation.
  
  Of course, this is not universal. For example, I wouldn't use that calculation for the approach on the 6th hole of Pebble Beach. But the calculation works very nicely on the par 3s of Chambers Bay. There, however, you have to make some fairly big adjustments for the wind.

   

• mathia14 1,271 Posts

  Tue, Mar 14 2017 10:13 AM

  Robert1893:

  mathia14:

  Another thing is how to figure how much harder to hit to an elevated green.

  
  
  Conventional wisdom is +1 yard for every +3 feet of elevation.
  
  Of course, this is not universal. For example, I wouldn't use that calculation for the approach on the 6th hole of Pebble Beach. But the calculation works very nicely on the par 3s of Chambers Bay. There, however, you have to make some fairly big adjustments for the wind.

   

  when I use the + & - sometimes I hit it too hard even when it's figured for wind. & my cheatsheet.  It's a hit or miss.  Beth Page is the worst.  Bends me right over a fender of a '56 Buick.

• lonniescott711 4,207 Posts

  Tue, Mar 14 2017 10:19 AM

  Knowing how hard to hit any shot comes from trial and error . Me I dont play from notes just from memory . I for the most part know what my clubs will do and how the game will play . For me it comes down to course management shot selection ball placement and good putting . Thats my game and it works on all courses .I keep my game simple no spread sheets calculators slide rulers none of that . Just basic math and a simple game .

  This is why practice is so important . From practicing you will figure out how hard to hit your shots . The best way to learn the courses your clubs your shots and every other part of this game is from practicing . Many players hate that word " practice" but its the best part of your game . Its the part of your game that helps you play better and score better . So practice and you will find the answer to your questions . Again start with using the rock and work your way from there .

• Robert1893 7,722 Posts

  Tue, Mar 14 2017 10:36 AM

  mathia14:

  when I use the + & - sometimes I hit it too hard even when it's figured for wind. & my cheatsheet.  It's a hit or miss.  Beth Page is the worst.  Bends me right over a fender of a '56 Buick.

  
  
  I agree with lonnie. A lot of it just comes with a lot of practice. I also play mostly by feel and remembering what's worked in the past. Also, you could search the forum for specific advice on holes or courses.
  
  For example, here's a thread on the par 3s at Chambers Bay (see link below). In that thread, the post to really pay attention to is duffputt's (last post in the thread). He's an excellent player and really knows the game.
  
  If I were you, I would search the forum for advice on Bethpage.
  
  http://www.wgt.com/forums/p/438280/2994082.aspx#2994082