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Re: cheat programs

Wed, Nov 24 2021 11:47 PM (518 replies)
  • ISH47
    1,963 Posts
    Fri, Jan 16 2015 8:23 PM

    Jimbog1964:
    you seem very knowledgeable on this and I take your advice very seriously.

    +1  I wouldn't argue with him.. lol

  • fatdan
    3,379 Posts
    Fri, Jan 16 2015 9:13 PM

    1yes1no:

    Twitch means nothing to a good cheat program.  The meter is an area of screen memory existing within your computer.  A defined area on the meter can be watched to see if it changes memory content.  If it does, do a defined action.  You can program hot keys to watch one of several areas on the meter, say 4 left of ding, ding, four right of ding.  Now you have 9 defined hot keys to select nine spots on the meter where the hit of the ball will occur.  Random variations of meter speed will not affect such a program 

    The good ways to do it would be unnoticable unless the guy using one was an idiot.  I will

    The varying speed of the meter is to screw with the auto dings because there are so many and easy to use, and it works well enough to screw the game up...as far as the other way to cheat that are available all you need is a memory reader, the hex/cheat code, and 5 extra minutes to read and learn how to overwrite the original lines of code...the hot keys bring the meter to a crawl at a set point when struck but doesn't hit the ball, and you can see that on twitch ...

    unless you have programmed a new code that auto swings at a certain point depending on the hotkey used that isn't visible...

     

  • Jimbog1964
    8,378 Posts
    Fri, Jan 16 2015 9:53 PM

    fatdan:
    unless you have programmed a new code that auto swings at a certain point depending on the hotkey used that isn't visible...

    So for the edification and clarity of my feeble mind you agree with 1yes that for a skilled IT  person, or someone with the time and inclination to take that learning curve, it would be possible to set up say 4 stop points either side of the ding + a ding stop, all of which are just a hot key away?? You also agree that this would be not detectable watching on Twitch TV?? 

    Any half decent player with that could take this game apart very regularly, no ? about that at all.  No even hedging bets in a wind with that set up would be needed.

  • fatdan
    3,379 Posts
    Fri, Jan 16 2015 11:19 PM

    I don't know, but I can and will find out...slowing it down and striking the ball are 2 different functions....

    I'm told a expert could do whatever he wanted if you want to take 15 minutes per shot...LOL

  • alcaucin
    9,041 Posts
    Sat, Jan 17 2015 12:36 AM

    Jimbog1964:
    I take your advice very seriously.  Obviously if any one had a counter argument to that I would be all eyes,

    You seem very interested in this Jim...

    You in the market for some 'VIAGRA' ?  ;-)))

    Andy

  • 1yes1no
    223 Posts
    Sat, Jan 17 2015 1:54 AM

    fatdan:

    I don't know, but I can and will find out...slowing it down and striking the ball are 2 different functions....

    I'm told a expert could do whatever he wanted if you want to take 15 minutes per shot...LOL

    15 minutes?

    Legit players areskilled and pretty fast with their swing charts.  Expert cheat programs would just set target, select club, adjust swing power with mouse, then press the hotkey to take the shot when the meter reaches your selected point on the meter.  Club and swing speed would be irrelevant to those folks and it would be invisible to twitch and wgt.  If you can guarantee the place on the meter where the hit will occur, the game gets much simpler.

    Again, it would be pretty boring playing that way, and I would have contempt and sadness for anyone doing such a thing, but at least I can let everyone know what is quite possible, probable, and beyond wgt's ability to easily fix.

  • Jimbog1964
    8,378 Posts
    Sat, Jan 17 2015 3:30 AM

    1yes1no:
    Expert cheat programs would just set target, select club, adjust swing power with mouse, then press the hotkey to take the shot when the meter reaches your selected point on the meter.  Club and swing speed would be irrelevant to those folks and it would be invisible to twitch and wgt.  If you can guarantee the place on the meter where the hit will occur, the game gets much simpler.

    Not sure I buy that 1.  If true only 1 hoy key would be needed and that would be the start game and send a message when the AI has finished. I don't think we are quite yet that, let alone twitching with with all that going on any which way.

    1yes1no:
    Legit players ares killed and pretty fast with their swing charts.

    All that's needed, and notes / fresh in mind experience of a given hole.

    1yes1no:
    If you can guarantee the place on the meter where the hit will occur, the game gets much simpler.

    That's the really relevant bit IMO. The user I firmly believe moves to set the power / spin, and also releases.  The ? then becomes is there a program lurking to take over once released that has been activated via hot key to say 1 of 9 predetermined points near or at the ding.  

    That is the key ? as they say, and twitch would not be able to show that unless said cheat was really dumb or unlucky enough to play in internet cafes that only had dodgy copies of windows and CE loaded .........as has happened before :)

    EDIT: Apologies if I am coming across as trying to put people on the witness stand.  I fully get my would just say accept cheating happens, but something says understanding is never wrong even if it's only the effect in this case not the how.  Thanks for your thought's which I do appreciate.

     

  • Gazzamius
    273 Posts
    Wed, Nov 24 2021 11:47 PM

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