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Re: Rossa for ding and off ding

• lonniescott711 4,207 Posts

  Sat, Jul 29 2017 4:57 PM

  @ flagstick for the price and at its level the rossa is a great putter and is tops when compared to putters at the same levels . I can say the L70+ versa is better than the rossa because I had them both . I had them both and played them both each for at least a minimum of 1 year which is why I can say what I say .

  Now the nay sayers were one players who wanted to act like the versa was a magic wand . Its not a magic wand its a putter . You have to take the time to learn it and how to also putt as a whole if you want to score well with it . So you first have to be able to fairly putt well as well as know how to read the breaks and know how to play the game . Is it worth the credits to me it was and is worth the cost . 

  As for the extensive reading there`s not that much to read . But as you play and put your time in you will begin to see and understand the game . You will also begin to understand just how important it is to have the right types of clubs and how you will have to upgrade those clubs as you tier up .

  The majority of your point about the rossa or the versa is based more on the ideas of others and not personal experience . My opinions about the rossa and the versa are both and all based on personal experience and not what others say . If you get a chance to do so try out a versa putter during a free rental . I guarantee you will see and appreciate the difference between the 2 putters . Matter of fact you`ll want one when its over .

   

• flatstick96 214 Posts

  Sat, Jul 29 2017 5:23 PM

  Thank for the feedback guys - hopefully this conversation helps others in the future.

• colinjones0 430 Posts

  Sun, Jul 30 2017 12:05 AM

  Well I have to say after a few rounds I feel that the Versa feels more comfortable and balanced,the ball seems to roll smoother than the level s 51 and 77 Spiders, and I feel that my putting will improve now [with practise]even though it has opposite meter increments,15/30/60,but just feels nicer to use.

• Bowl64 3,119 Posts

  Thu, Aug 3 2017 3:21 AM

  lonniescott711:

  colinjones0:

  Hi just wondered what you lot thought  about the Rossa for ding and off ding putting as i use both depending on the putt,as im struggling with the lvl 77 spider,dont like the way you have to over hit nearly every putt,,any feedback welcome

  Hi Colin I had the Rossa putter and its a great putter . You can putt both ways with it but if you really want a great putter for this style of putting  then get the L70+ Versa putter . It is absolutely one of the best putters in the pro shop hands down . I gave up my Rossa putter for it and never looked back . You can putt however you need to with it and its overall a great putter . In the Versa line the 3 top putters are the L70+ 96+ and 98+ sabertooth in that order . So anyone of those 3 is a home run .

  So if you want better putting results then thats the way to go .

   

  Agree wholeheartedly about the Versa L70+ putter :))

   

  Bjorn

   

• 1,866 Posts

  Fri, Aug 4 2017 1:47 AM

  I've played with a lot of rented putters and I still swear by the Ghost spider. I'm still using the l35 one, lol. But it's the best price/performance value in my book.

  I'm a strictly off ding putter. Daytona's meter is too fast for me to click exactly where I want and everything with the forgiveness level over 3 (Versas have from 3,5 on) is too difficult to play. The more forgiveness the putter has, the further from ding you need to click to get the same line. that means you need to use more power as well. I think I could probably get used to it eventually, but why bother changing stuff that works ;-)

• lonniescott711 4,207 Posts

  Fri, Aug 4 2017 7:58 AM

  mkrizan86:

  I've played with a lot of rented putters and I still swear by the Ghost spider. I'm still using the l35 one, lol. But it's the best price/performance value in my book.

  I'm a strictly off ding putter. Daytona's meter is too fast for me to click exactly where I want and everything with the forgiveness level over 3 (Versas have from 3,5 on) is too difficult to play. The more forgiveness the putter has, the further from ding you need to click to get the same line. that means you need to use more power as well. I think I could probably get used to it eventually, but why bother changing stuff that works ;-)

  No the more forgiveness a club has only means that you can play more off the ding and not be punished for doing it . It doesnt mean that you have to that will depend on the amount of break that you have to play .

  If you can putt well with the putter that you have then fine there`s no such thing as a magic putter . Good or great putting comes from knowing how to read the greens and the breaks .Then putting according to those reads . There are players who can putt very well with the starter putter . Once you learn the putter that you have then you will know its strengths and its short comings .

   

• 1,866 Posts

  Fri, Aug 4 2017 8:33 AM

  lonniescott711:

  mkrizan86:

  I've played with a lot of rented putters and I still swear by the Ghost spider. I'm still using the l35 one, lol. But it's the best price/performance value in my book.

  I'm a strictly off ding putter. Daytona's meter is too fast for me to click exactly where I want and everything with the forgiveness level over 3 (Versas have from 3,5 on) is too difficult to play. The more forgiveness the putter has, the further from ding you need to click to get the same line. that means you need to use more power as well. I think I could probably get used to it eventually, but why bother changing stuff that works ;-)

  No the more forgiveness a club has only means that you can play more off the ding and not be punished for doing it . It doesnt mean that you have to that will depend on the amount of break that you have to play .

  If you can putt well with the putter that you have then fine there`s no such thing as a magic putter . Good or great putting comes from knowing how to read the greens and the breaks .Then putting according to those reads . There are players who can putt very well with the starter putter . Once you learn the putter that you have then you will know its strengths and its short comings .

   

  Lonnie, you may want to rethink the bold part. I agree, the more forgiveness means you get less punished for missing the ding and giving you a straighter line. But this also means you need to miss the ding by more to get the same line as the less forgiving putter. The principle goes both ways ;-)

  Try clicking 2 different putters, one with forgiveness 2 and 1 with 4, in the same spot on the meter on the same break and see where they end up. You'd be surprised. 

   

• K7JBQ 1,468 Posts

  Fri, Aug 4 2017 8:59 AM

  I have to agree. I used to putt short ones off ding from the forward putting position using the level 70 Versa, and it worked well. Since upgrading to the Sabertooth, I can only do that with very slight breaks. Going to reverse and putting on ding is by far the way to go with that putter if there is more of a break to the putt.

• lonniescott711 4,207 Posts

  Fri, Aug 4 2017 1:31 PM

  mkrizan86:

  lonniescott711:

  mkrizan86:

  I've played with a lot of rented putters and I still swear by the Ghost spider. I'm still using the l35 one, lol. But it's the best price/performance value in my book.

  I'm a strictly off ding putter. Daytona's meter is too fast for me to click exactly where I want and everything with the forgiveness level over 3 (Versas have from 3,5 on) is too difficult to play. The more forgiveness the putter has, the further from ding you need to click to get the same line. that means you need to use more power as well. I think I could probably get used to it eventually, but why bother changing stuff that works ;-)

  No the more forgiveness a club has only means that you can play more off the ding and not be punished for doing it . It doesnt mean that you have to that will depend on the amount of break that you have to play .

  If you can putt well with the putter that you have then fine there`s no such thing as a magic putter . Good or great putting comes from knowing how to read the greens and the breaks .Then putting according to those reads . There are players who can putt very well with the starter putter . Once you learn the putter that you have then you will know its strengths and its short comings .

   

  Lonnie, you may want to rethink the bold part. I agree, the more forgiveness means you get less punished for missing the ding and giving you a straighter line. But this also means you need to miss the ding by more to get the same line as the less forgiving putter. The principle goes both ways ;-)

  Try clicking 2 different putters, one with forgiveness 2 and 1 with 4, in the same spot on the meter on the same break and see where they end up. You'd be surprised. 

   

  Nothing to rethink  Depends on how you miss the ding when putting . Do you leave the marker in the default position and miss the ding when putting ? If so then yes you have to miss more . But if you move the marker to change the line of the putt then the miss is not as much . Also when you leave the marker in the default position and miss putt on heavy breaks you have to use more power to play through the break . This is why its best to move the marker to change the line .

  What you are referring to is not the foregiveness but the balance of the club. The balance of the club is what helps the ball hold its line especially on longer putts .Your example of the 2 putters is not about forgiveness but balance . Also trying to compare 2 putters with different levels of forgiveness is like comparing apples to oranges . Its also why you dont get the same results .

   

• 1,866 Posts

  Sat, Aug 5 2017 1:11 AM

  lonniescott711:

  Depends on how you miss the ding when putting . Do you leave the marker in the default position and miss the ding when putting ? If so then yes you have to miss more . But if you move the marker to change the line of the putt then the miss is not as much .

  I leave the marker alone, except for a few silly breaks, but even then I move it (guesstimate) just enough to click at the side marker on the meter. I have no idea how to putt by moving the marker, started aiming by missing the ding my 1st week here and never changed, cause it worked well ;-)

  But the forgiveness will always affect the starting line of the putt on a missed ding, no matter how you putt, not sure why it would affect it less, if one moves the marker? 

  lonniescott711:

  What you are referring to is not the foregiveness but the balance of the club. The balance of the club is what helps the ball hold its line especially on longer putts

  The balance affects putts in their latter stages, not their starting line. And it's not the reason why 2 putts from 6 feet with a small break (clicked around 20% of the "ding/side marker distance" from the ding, clicked at the same spot, would end up on opposite sides of the cup. Cause that's the difference between my Ghost and any putter with the forgiveness level of 4 or more.