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Wed, Jul 13 2011 5:42 AM (13 replies)
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  • gsoup
    2,929 Posts
    Tue, Jul 12 2011 5:00 PM

    I thought you only told ME that, now everyone knows

     

    YankeeJim:
    hit the ding early to the first line left of perfect. That line and the aimer are lined up.

    it really does work

    -G

  • birdwell
    561 Posts
    Tue, Jul 12 2011 6:43 PM

    You lose a little loft hitting it early, it's not usually an issue, sometimes it actually helps. I never trust hitting it early when I am in the deep stuff, or buried in a bunker. 0

    If I need to hit a blooper, I will hit the flop early. If I need to get out of trouble, I hit a Flop. (ding the line)

    I trust my pitching well enough to not use the Flop as much as I see a lot of players use. I always sort of scratch my head when I see player flop off the fringe to a flat green, no matter how close they get it.   I'm more likely to putt from the fringe, I ain't scared.. lol

     

    Also, it's not "3 squares to the left" or whatnot. It depends on the distance of the flop and the club. A 30 yard flop with a 56* wedge may require a few more squares to the left. A short 12 yarder out of a green side bunker may just require much less.

    Have to get a feel for it.  It's all about the clubs in YOUR bag.

  • SweetiePie91
    269 Posts
    Wed, Jul 13 2011 1:24 AM

    YankeeJim:

    SweetiePie91:
    A flop shot is most easily hit straight forward with a pretty normal stance.

    No it isn't. In order to lay the club flat on the ground you have to open your stance. This naturally sends to ball to the right so you have to aim left, just like IRL. Opening your stance IRL lessens how much right it goes. (If they're teaching normal stance and aiming different these days then I guess this is the old way to do it.) It's no different here, you just have to figure out how far to aim to the left.

    Can I ask you something Jim? I understand you play golf IRL but on what level? When did you take a lesson and from who?

    I have a hcp of 3.5 IRL and play on elite level. I take lessons all the time by a modern trainer who has taken courses in these things I am talking about. So dont talk to me like I dont know a ***. The best and most safe way to hit a flop shot is by stancing pretty normal, open up club and hit it straight forward. This takes a while to learn but its the most easy way when you get it.. 

    I bet you are doing the exact same thing in the bunker, aiming left with feet and right with clubhead? Does the ball starts right from bunker too around the greens here? No it doesnt, not that I have noticed.. So where is the "real" thing from there?

    Ps. Hitting from the bunker (the "modern way") is done almost exactly like the "modern" flopshot I was talking about, without aiming left with feet and without the ball starting to the right of where you aim.

  • YankeeJim
    25,827 Posts
    Wed, Jul 13 2011 5:42 AM

    SweetiePie91:
    Can I ask you something Jim? I understand you play golf IRL but on what level? When did you take a lesson and from who?

    I hack now but didn't used to, plain and simple. The elite level in my day was nothing like that of today. Age takes its toll on you and you have to adjust. The short game is where you have to get good to compensate for not hitting 300 yard bombs any more. The lessons came a long, long time ago and haven't been forgotten. By your own admission it is the old way and infinitely more controllable, IMO. I'm not the one struggling to understand here-go try it for yourself  Ms. 3.5 hdcp. (Must be important to include 1/2 stroke. LOL-I bet you really smack down a 4.0.)

    SweetiePie91:
    So dont talk to me like I dont know a ***.

    If disagreeing with you is talking to you like you don't know whatever was censored you might consider looking at why you think that. I've responded to your simpleton questions about this game since you started asking them a month ago when you joined instead of telling you to just search for them over there---->. You're welcome.

    SweetiePie91:
    I bet you are doing the exact same thing in the bunker, aiming left with feet and right with clubhead? Does the ball starts right from bunker too around the greens here?
     

    Stick to RL or the game here. IRL I don't flop from the sand but I do here because it's what works, just like pitching does which is the RL shot for me.  Zero problems getting out of the sand in either place and yes, the flop here does take off to the right out of the sand.

    My advice to new players has always been to play this game like you would IRL. Think the same, strategize the same, play the same shots and play smart. That all starts by learning the limitations of the game. Given those limitations, I think this is the closest thing to the real game I have ever seen-very real.

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