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Help me understand this avge increase?

Fri, May 4 2012 1:56 AM (9 replies)
  • SHRUDE
    SHRUDE
    5,835 Posts
    Thu, May 3 2012 9:10 AM

    So...I'm a Master with 66.63 avge

    anytime i par or go +1/ +2 on a round or even up to -2 on a round my avge stays the same. If i result in a -3 my avge decreases buy .05 (or similar)

    We currently have a CClub tourney titled:  'lower your avge'

    St A's  - front 9 - Fast Greens, low Wind, easy hole

    Sure enough, have played that tourney a few times and with a result of -3/ -4 my avge has been going down by 0.15 each time. happy days?
    Subsequent games since then have been GolfSeeker 'practice' settings or ALT games.

    So tonight i hit -1 on BP B9 stroke I expecting that my avge will remain the same BUT my avge goes UP to 66.97..

    I havent seen my avge go UP for a LONG time

    is it because i have been reducing my average specifically with this 'easy' CClub game?

    Should I stay away from courses that are 'easier' to play - in fear of some kind of avge / difficulty equation?

    This recent increase has THROWN me..  usually in WGT stroke  or Club Tourneys i can pretty much guess what my avge is gonna do at the end of a game.

    hope i'm making sense. 2am in Sydney :)

     

     

     

  • pilota1975
    pilota1975
    59 Posts
    Thu, May 3 2012 9:29 AM

    Hi ,

    I am a Master with Average 64. I really cant help you with calculating average , but

    it seems that my Average is calculated well. I use to play on St. Andrews about

    -4 to -6 and it goes down anytime about 0.15. My question is : Where can I find i

    list for Level UP! I mean what Average to Level Up! Someone told me next Level

    Tour Master is 63 Average ??!!! Legend???? Greetings!

  • alosso
    alosso
    21,060 Posts
    Thu, May 3 2012 10:03 AM

    @pilota: There is no list. The number is right.

     

    @shrude: You have approx. 130 ranked Master rounds under you belt (see your score history) and your average will have stopped to go up three months ago. If you noticed such thing lately, it must be an error (by WGT or someone else).

    Rounds of 70 and higher (35 for 9 holes) will not affect your average any more, and soon you must be better than 68 (34).

    HTH.

  • BubbaCrusher007
    BubbaCrusher007
    1,567 Posts
    Thu, May 3 2012 10:18 AM

    SHRUDE:

    Should I stay away from courses that are 'easier' to play - in fear of some kind of avge / difficulty equation?

    I play for fun. I play courses where eagles and birdies are easy, because it's fun for me.

    Now I will hear a backlash to the regard " Be a man & play Oakmont & fire at every pin"

    I play for fun, ave don't really have a meaning for me. Waitin on clubs to unlock anyhow & needs the points.

    So my answer is play what gives you the most fun. Some folks like the hard courses, some like the easy ones. But ave., i know too many people get hung up on averages (me included) and that should't be what it's all about. imo

  • oilyrag
    oilyrag
    875 Posts
    Thu, May 3 2012 12:00 PM

    your avg is correct - wgt round to 2dp -

    your best 40 scores at master tier in order - lowest to highest - show your avg as 66. 975

         18 holes              sum                  rd                  av
    Back 9 All Players 30 60 60 1 60
    Back 9 Master 32 64 124 2 62
    Back 9 All Players 32 64 188 3 62.66667
    Front 9 All Players 32 64 252 4 63
    Front 9 All Players 32 64 316 5 63.2
    Front 9 All Players 32 64 380 6 63.33333
    Front 9 Master 32 64 444 7 63.42857
    Front 9 Master 32 64 508 8 63.5
    Full 18 All Players 64 64 572 9 63.55556
    Back 9 Master 33 66 638 10 63.8
    Back 9 Master 33 66 704 11 64
    Back 9 Master 33 66 770 12 64.16667
    Front 9 All Players 33 66 836 13 64.30769
    Front 9 Master 33 66 902 14 64.42857
    Front 9 All Players 33 66 968 15 64.53333
    Front 9 Master 33 66 1034 16 64.625
    Front 9 Master 33 66 1100 17 64.70588
    Front 9 Master 33 66 1166 18 64.77778
    Front 9 Master 33 66 1232 19 64.84211
    Back 9 Master 34 68 1300 20 65
    Back 9 Master 34 68 1368 21 65.14286
    Back 9 Master 34 68 1436 22 65.27273
    Back 9 All Players 34 68 1504 23 65.3913
    Back 9 All Players 34 68 1572 24 65.5
    Back 9 Master 34 68 1640 25 65.6
    Front 9 Master 34 68 1708 26 65.69231
    Front 9 Master 34 68 1776 27 65.77778
    Front 9 All Players 34 68 1844 28 65.85714
    Front 9 Master 34 68 1912 29 65.93103
    Front 9 Master 34 68 1980 30 66
    Full 18 All Players 69 69 2049 31 66.09677
    Back 9 Master 35 70 2119 32 66.21875
    Back 9 All Players 35 70 2189 33 66.33333
    Back 9 Master 35 70 2259 34 66.44118
    Back 9 Master 35 70 2329 35 66.54286
    Back 9 Master 35 70 2399 36 66.63889
    Back 9 Master 35 70 2469 37 66.72973
    Back 9 Master 35 70 2539 38 66.81579
    Back 9 Master 35 70 2609 39 66.89744
    Back 9 Master 35 70 2679 40 66.975
    Back 9 All Players 35 70 2749 41 67.04878
    Back 9 All Players 35 70 2819 42 67.11905
    Front 9 Master 35 70 2889 43

    67.18605

  • Glossopade
    Glossopade
    518 Posts
    Thu, May 3 2012 2:27 PM

    BubbaCrusher007:

    So my answer is play what gives you the most fun. Some folks like the hard courses, some like the easy ones. But ave., i know too many people get hung up on averages (me included) and that should't be what it's all about. imo

    I couldn't agree more. After less than 8 months, I'm happy where I am and my average hardly seems to budge at all any more, so reaching sub 63 to stand a chance of moving up to Tour Master, is something I never think about nowadays. When I was out of work, I could throw time at it for fun and that moved me up through the tiers. Now I'm employed again, I just enjoy any time I can get on here, between sleep and work !

     

  • ChipNSink
    ChipNSink
    427 Posts
    Thu, May 3 2012 4:34 PM

    Latest one I read who posted requirements for tiering up was genorbs:

    Pro = average 80 with at least 10 ranked rounds played as Amateur

    Tour pro = average 72 with at least 20 ranked rounds played as Pro

    Master = average 67 with at least 25 ranked games played as Tour pro

    Tour Master = average 63 with at least 40 ranked games played as Master

    Legends = average 61 with at least 50 ranked games played as Tour Master


    Credit for this information goes to genorb

  • SHRUDE
    SHRUDE
    5,835 Posts
    Thu, May 3 2012 7:12 PM

    alosso:
    your average will have stopped to go up three months ago

     

    Thats what I thought, the person I played, his avge went up also. He had also been hammering the EASY play course and bringing his avge down.

    I understand all the LEVEL UP and TIER info, we have a thread on it in our CC.

    I was intrested to know WHY it went UP in that BP game with a result of -1 ...  and if it was a result of hammering and EASY play course

  • oilyrag
    oilyrag
    875 Posts
    Fri, May 4 2012 1:40 AM

    your correct average after each round is this ( wgt shows 66.38 to 2dp )

    so it hasn't gone up - only down

               AVG
    05.04.12 Lower That Average Front 9 33 66.375
    05.04.12 Lower That Average Front 9 33 66.475
    05.03.12 Lower That Average Front 9 30 66.575
    05.03.12 Bethpage Black Front 9 33 66.825
    05.03.12 The Olympic Club Front 9 34 66.925
    05.03.12 The Olympic Club Front 9 37 66.975
    05.03.12 The Olympic Club Front 9 37 66.975
    05.03.12 Bethpage Black Front 9 36 66.975
    05.03.12 St Andrews Links: The Old Course Front 9 38 66.975
    05.03.12 Bethpage Black Back 9 34 66.975
    05.03.12 St Andrews Links: The Old Course Front 9 39 67.025
    05.02.12 Lower That Average Front 9 33 67.025
    05.02.12 Lower That Average Front 9 32 67.125
    05.01.12 Kiawah Island: The Ocean Course Back 9 35 67.275

  • geraldlarousse
    geraldlarousse
    1,986 Posts
    Fri, May 4 2012 1:56 AM

    Correct i made legend in 154 ranked rounds and can be done in 145

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