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Elevated tees/greens

• DrinksBreak 163 Posts

  Thu, Jun 7 2012 3:55 AM

  Hi all,

  new to the game and could not easily find any threads for this.  So what's the go judging distance/clubs for elevated tees/greens as ball flight seems not to be realistic but based on some club distance and elevation change ratio.  Anyone have any general rules?

   

  cheers

• WGTicon 12,511 Posts

  Thu, Jun 7 2012 2:17 PM

  hi

  generally speaking 3ft elevation =  1 yard of distance. but that really chances depending on distance, balls, clubs, you use and conditions, such as wind.

  best is to practice :)

  -wgticon

• piztaker 5,743 Posts

  Thu, Jun 7 2012 9:37 PM

  As an aside you really need to drop your hybrid and get a third wedge. It'd improve your approach options no end.

• merseydave 14 Posts

  Sun, Jun 24 2012 4:14 AM

  Doesn't seem to be anywhere near (3ft = 1 yard of distance), or, at best, a very sketchy rule of thumb.

  If elevated, this leave you well short.

  If a sunken green, then way over.

  And this is when winds are minimal, so no wind factor involved!

  Anyone got a better formula?

• GolfDum 396 Posts

  Sun, Jun 24 2012 12:10 PM

  Icon's formula is what most people use. It's the closest in my opinion. However, not all uphill lies need added distance and not all downhill lies need distance taken off. As Icon suggested, "practice" and get to know each hole. That will be your best indicator in the end.

• TarheelsRule 5,557 Posts

  Sun, Jun 24 2012 7:32 PM

  That formula is what is used but mainly by folks with quality clubs.  Clubs that don't go as high or as long will have a different measurement.  When you ask specific questions, most players assume you know they are talking about the decent clubs not the WGT starters.

• ApexPC 3,164 Posts

  Sun, Jun 24 2012 8:02 PM

  If the landing area is lower, the ball will fly an amount farther than normal and it will have less roll, both being proportional to the hitting and landing height difference. If a green is low enough, there may be no roll at all because the ball is falling straight down.

  Conversely, if the landing area is higher, the ball will not go as far, and will roll more.

  No doubt wind has to also be considered, as does if you ding, or don't ding, the swing meter, and if you add top or back spin to the ball.

  Ball trajectory is also influenced by the stoke type you choose. A Punch shot will have a lower trajectory than a Full swing shot. Using a punch shot to an elevated green will likely require at least one more additional club to reach the green than the additional club(s) required by the elevated green.

  On courses like Bethpage Black, you may need to take 2 or more clubs to reach the elevated greens and fairways with Full strokes, and it is harder to get the ball stopped on elevated greens because of the increased roll.

• alosso 21,066 Posts

  Sun, Jun 24 2012 10:34 PM

  DrinksBreak:

  new to the game and could not easily find any threads for this.  So what's the go judging distance/clubs for elevated tees/greens as ball flight seems not to be realistic but based on some club distance and elevation change ratio.  Anyone have any general rules?

  As a Master, you won't be too new, are you? :)

  With the Starter equipment of yours, you suffer from different things:

  - short clubs, leaving long shots into the greens,

  - low ball flight, making it difficult or even impossible to land on decent spots on the greens to get shorter putts.

  I played the Starter irons into Master and learned quite well to judge the proceedings, chose substantially longer clubs uphill and/or lay up short or to the side (find the seniors' entrance as we call it here). As an example, I'd never attack the flags @CCC ##2+3 but roll a wood onto the right portion of the green. (Helps to learn putting, too :) )

  I don't believe that there is a rule of thumb for this equipment, it's a matter of experience.

  I do believe that it will be more fun to buy some decent clubs as a Master, the level 59 G20s coming into mind (at 88515 XPs). Get some custom wedges, too!

  At least, get yourself a decent driver. I've been beaten by a Master with that comination once or twice.

  Last but not least:

  My congrats to your achievement of Master with this poor equipment!

• chrisironsbones 3,524 Posts

  Mon, Jun 25 2012 3:31 AM

  You need to remember the holes.

  I add 1 yard per 3 foot up slope and subtract 1 yard for 4 feet down slope, but even this is NEVER a given.  Some holes might say 20 foot down elevation which you should subtract 5 yards, yet ball will still overshoot by 5 yards! It takes practice and remembering how holes play because dont take the elevation shown as gospel, so if your ball DOES overshoot by 5 yards, next time instead of calculating the yardage to 20 feet, take a few yards off or calculate shot as 12 feet down not 20.

• YankeeJim 25,827 Posts

  Mon, Jun 25 2012 6:07 AM

  chrisironsbones:

  Some holes might say 20 foot down elevation which you should subtract 5 yards, yet ball will still overshoot by 5 yards!

  You have to factor in the flight of the club you're hitting. Clubs with steeper arcs, like wedges, aren't as affected by elevation like longer irons that have flatter arcs are.