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WGT All-Stars vs. Deviations CC

• MBaggese 15,367 Posts

  Tue, Jul 3 2012 10:12 PM

  Lisa03:

  Interesting process for selecting the All-Stars

  HI Lisa

  Based on when the Devs challenge was issued and the need to get the ball rolling, what would have been your suggestion to get 16 opponents?

• Lisa03 5,910 Posts

  Wed, Jul 4 2012 1:36 AM

  MBaggese:

  Lisa03:

  Interesting process for selecting the All-Stars

  HI Lisa

  Based on when the Devs challenge was issued and the need to get the ball rolling, what would have been your suggestion to get 16 opponents?

  I wasn't being negative-I have long been an advocate of "qualifiers" and challenging rosters for a spot on the team-the only flaw i see is that if I were ranking players (which I did all the scouting and ranking for the Hotties in Slor League)  is that in some cases you have two players in head to head elimination that may eliminate a # 2,3, or 4 ranked player in Match Play. But hey---I think you're doing a good job with this----good luck MB!

  And besides Lou is a Genius at putting together great comps.

• stevenharkin 1,921 Posts

  Wed, Jul 4 2012 4:12 AM

   

   

• godelescher 636 Posts

  Wed, Jul 4 2012 5:23 AM

  Lisa03:

  I wasn't being negative-I have long been an advocate of "qualifiers" and challenging rosters for a spot on the team-the only flaw i see is that if I were ranking players (which I did all the scouting and ranking for the Hotties in Slor League)  is that in some cases you have two players in head to head elimination that may eliminate a # 2,3, or 4 ranked player in Match Play. But hey---I think you're doing a good job with this----good luck MB!

  And besides Lou is a Genius at putting together great comps.

  All your points are valid Lisa.

  We agree that a "qualifier" is a good thing. If for no other reason than it (mostly) absolves us from having to make arbitrary decisions about who is better than whom.

  I'm unfamiliar with the rankings you cited, but even if we used them to measure players ability, it would still be an imperfect science for many different reasons. (How do you measure heart? How do you measure improvement or decline? How do you measure confidence or will to win?)

  In the end, we knew we would make mistakes, and we knew there would be unfortunate situations where two deserving players would face each other and only one would advance. That's why the team captain has 4 picks at the end of the qualifier.

  It's not a perfect system, but at the end of the day, I think we did it as fairly and as impartially as we were able to.

  I'm glad to see you're following the invitational and I hope you'll support your CC and the whole WGT All Star team against the Deviants Deviations, :)

   

• Lisa03 5,910 Posts

  Wed, Jul 4 2012 9:44 AM

  I'm unfamiliar with the rankings you cited, but even if we used them to measure players ability, it would still be an imperfect science for many different reasons. (How do you measure heart? How do you measure improvement or decline? How do you measure confidence or will to win?)

  In the end, we knew we would make mistakes, and we knew there would be unfortunate situations where two deserving players would face each other and only one would advance. 

   

  You're absolutely right. It's kind of the ole saying, "on any given day". Look as I said you're doing a good job. and its very difficult to come up with 16 "All-Stars" when there are probably 116+ on WGT---Devs is probably the only club that could pull something like this off---they have some of the very Best Players on WGT. I sent a note to MB explaining why I posted the comment.  I totally favor some kind of qualifier, or challenge to earn a spot on a roster like you're putting together. So good luck to the All-Stars!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

• MBaggese 15,367 Posts

  Wed, Jul 4 2012 10:04 AM

  Lisa03:

  I sent a note to MB explaining why I posted the comment.

   

  I just read it

  Thanks Lisa

  I think in the future a large qualifier (given enough time and interest) would be the way to go.

  There's so many good players here, many more deserved a shot to challenge.

• Wontonamo 2,269 Posts

  Thu, Jul 5 2012 1:17 AM

  dan and i played our match today and i ended up defeating my good bud and guild brother at ccc18. bitter sweet victory mate, just had one of those rounds i guess lol. thanks for tha hitout , always a pleasure playing a round with ya.

• DDuval981 2,315 Posts

  Thu, Jul 5 2012 1:23 AM

  Couldn't ask for a better opponent pardo!!  Yeah, my clock was cleaned BIG TIME by the master dominator!  WOW, -12 thru 14 is hard to beat my friend.  Absolutely flawless play, proud of ya!  Knew it would be the best of company all the way through....sorry for the non-competiton on my end.  Best of luck to ya Tom on your upcoming matches, bring it home brother! 

  Dan

• godelescher 636 Posts

  Thu, Jul 5 2012 9:51 AM

  Welcome to the WGT All Star team wontonamo! Very well done.

  ...only six matches remaining.

  Nice job Dduval, a very good showing all around. Thanks for being part of the invitational.

• JCOlson 1,118 Posts

  Thu, Jul 5 2012 12:54 PM

  Thrilling and fun match with Stevenharkin just in. Stevey wins 1up on the 2nd extra hole.

  Not a favorite course for either of us. I got hot early and was 10 up thru 10 including a couple of eagles. Stevey had some cruel lipouts and bad luck along the way. Then he came charging furiously back birdieing all but one of the last 8 including a 17 foot above the hole snake on 18 to get is to AS. This time it was I that had the cruel luck. Happened again on the final 2nd hole where he hit a 20 footer from above the hole, and i lipped out a 6 foot side hill putt to lose.

  Great match. Great tourney. Look forward to rooting the all-stars on to victory against the devs. Bummed I won't be there to help. 

  Cheers!