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Award level requirements

• Infinito3010 3,689 Posts

  Wed, May 5 2010 11:59 PM

  Let me first to congratulate the new awards that were implemented on this product update.  It definitely relates to all the players here. 

  I have one question is how are the target levels set.  For example, "In the Drink award".   One requires losing 10,000 golf balls to obtain the diamond award.   I would think a more realistic target of a 100 to obtain the diamond award.  Thus, in my opinion some achievement levels need to be revamped, otherwise they are not achievable or they are to easy to achieve. 

  The most important factor that would impact how quickly to achieve an award at the highest level  would be the average number of rounds played per week.  Thus, looking at your active members and determining the average number of rounds played per week might provide some insightful information in determining your targets.

  Just my two cents worth.

  Shadow.

• iconian 599 Posts

  Thu, May 6 2010 12:02 AM

  I like the double eagle award. I am quite sure I will die before I get close to maxing it out

• JulioMoot 76 Posts

  Thu, May 6 2010 4:52 AM

   totally agree with infinito re the in the drink award.

   also pars made should be 10,000 (3000, i have 4342)

   get down  10,000   (3000 ,have 3667)

   down the drain  10,000 ( 400 ,have 4295 lol)

    also i notice all others have been backdated apart from short haul  (400,have 6) and

    long haul (400,just finished 18 wgtls pga tourney tees,fast greens, thought it was all modes,i.e unranked; must be just stroke and matchplay ranked maybe cause i didn't get the award :( )

    was happy to see 8 awards pop up after i putted in on the 1st hole after the update though :)

     ty wgt, keep up the good work :)

  Regards Julio(prefers Jessica Alba,no contest, over Jessica Biel and Halle Berry)Moot

• ncviz 527 Posts

  Thu, May 6 2010 5:42 AM

  Ok I'm going to try to give my feedback on these awards new and old. Didn't want to start a new thread, lord knows we have enough of them already. So Infinito I apologize if this is highjacking your thread, it's along the same issues I think.

  I'll break these down in the sequence in which you guys presented them, so far there has been 3.

  First ones, and by far the most logical, but still does have their issues. If they don't get mentioned that means there fine in my view.

   

  Hole-in-Ones and Double Eagles... way too high diamond number... progression of 5/10/15/25/50 would make much more sense.

  CTTH Holes outs...again too high... 5/25/50/100/150/250 would be more sensible.

  CTTH Accuracy... way way too low... this is one of those where 5000/10000 diamond would have worked.

  Sandman... just a touch too high for diamond... 5000 could have been better.

  Match Play Wins... another high diamond value... 1/25/100/250/500/1000/1500 makes more sense to me.

  That's it for the first installment, on to the second...

   

  Choke, Water boy, Yips... All of these are awards for doing something wrong??

  In the Drink... ok in theory, but insanely high diamond number... more like 100 diamond would be fine.

  Dance Floor 18... is the same for 9 hole version... if 9 holes is 2000 diamond 18 holes should be 1000 diamond.

  Boom Boom, good but give a par 5 version of this also.

  Kiawah/Bethpage Hole-in-Ones and Sticks... Mentioned before, but this needs a way to get track where you're at with them.

   

  Ok finally 3rd installment...

  Green Thumb, Straight Shooter, In the Cup, Pars made... These are all stats not awards. Already have 100% GIR Award. But what you dont have are 100% Fairways, or 100% Fairways and GIRs.

  Get Down... borderline here, but award for being average?

  Walk in the Park... this is fine, but is not calculated correctly. I used to play the CTTH quite a bit, and I'm positive I have way more than a little over 200 completed rounds. Heck I had that the first month I did the Coach tourney.

  Long/Short Haul... is this just not an extension of the Round and Round award.

  Down the Drain... 1 putts are good to award, but way way low value for diamond. This is one where 10000 would have made sense. Also could put Green Thumb and Pars Made at 10000 also.

   

  I know some of these are tailored more to the newer player, but still this is getting cluttered with borderline useless information. IMO, that takes away from the worth of having these at all. They started out great, but the last few versions of these have gotten progressively worse and worse. JMO as always, if you don't like or have a smart reply, well you can go.... ;). Have fun, and still good work WGT, just some constructive criticism.

• AvatarLee 1,644 Posts

  Thu, May 6 2010 6:43 AM

  Good post NC... I agree with pretty much everything you said.

• neildiamond11790 1,115 Posts

  Thu, May 6 2010 9:25 AM

  agree with nc.

• Infinito3010 3,689 Posts

  Thu, May 6 2010 11:07 AM

  good day ncviz;

  Nope, you provided alot of the numbers to WGT that I was thinking about.  Also, you confirmed the number for "In the Drink" award, being 100 for Diamond. 

  The only difference would be the sandman award.   I think a target level of 2000 to achieve the diamond is more realistic.  I am just stressing that the target levels need to be adjusted to provide realism in achieving these goals in a realistic time frames.

  Myself, I enjoy the awards, shows accomplishment and pride.  As for some of the negative awards "yips", perhaps they WGT should only look at the positive.  It is bad enough at times to miss a 2ft putt, but you don't need to be reminded by an award.  Just my thoughts on that aspect.

  Infinito.

• jbenny11 863 Posts

  Thu, May 6 2010 11:28 AM

  don't know if this is going to come out right or not, but here goes. are all these "puffery" awards affecting game play at all? just seems like alot more "things" going on than really need to be. i like checking out every month or so on how i'm doing on relevant awards, but some of this stuff i don't understand how it was even thought of, let alone being put into the game. not bashing here i just don't see how some of these awards came to pass. i think in less than a month we should have something to really sink our teeth into. new pins on kia. is. would be almost be like getting a whole new course imo. keep up the good work wgt, things are looking up. thx. JB

• Infinito3010 3,689 Posts

  Fri, May 7 2010 5:41 AM

  Hi guys;

  Perhaps I am just a little fastidious when it comes to some things.  I thought this was an informative thread, and thinking along those lines would get a response from the WGT team. 

  Alot of individuals including myself think the awards are great.  However the target levels need to be changed on quite of few of them to be realistic. 

  Regards

  Shadow;

• Richard4168 4,309 Posts

  Fri, May 7 2010 6:22 AM

  ncviz:

  CTTH Accuracy... way way too low... this is one of those where 5000/10000 diamond would have worked.

  I agree. I got this award in less than 300 greens hit. It may have been better to have the distance to the pin closer then 20'. Like others have stated, I got three diamond awards within the first two holes after the update. I'm not complaining at all, I like receiving awards during game play. It measures ones talent through experience, I just wanted to point out the unrealistic nature of the awards, and how out of reach some are.

  What happens though if WGT decides to change the values of the awards in question, will our already achieved stats be wiped clean? In any event, a change in values need to take place for some awards, so there's a more realistic approach to achieve them.  :)