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Still cant beat the system

• mnshiner 1,382 Posts

  Sat, Jul 14 2012 4:19 AM

  cycle1979:

  Russ.. don't take this the wrong way because I give you credit for not being one of those sandbaggers but playing all St Andy's to get to Legend is suicide.  I highly suggest mixing up your courses on your last few rounds to get some experience before you shoot from the parking lots :-) 

  Best of luck to you!!!

  Cycle

   

  ^^^ +1

• MioKontic 4,646 Posts

  Sat, Jul 14 2012 5:33 AM

  Russell

  I agree with the above too.  But, a lot of players play nothing but STA to get to Legend; I did too.  And it's not a case of 'beating the system', you have to look at your own play.  Let's look at a typical game on STA front 9:

  Hole 1:  Driver, wedge.
  Hole 2:  Driver, wedge/short iron.
  Hole 3:  Driver wedge.
  Hole 4:  Driver, short iron/ wedge.
  Hole 5:  Driver, on green in 2 or wedge for 3rd.
  Hole 6:  Driver, wedge.
  Hole 7:  Driver, wedge.
  Hole 8:  Par 3.
  Hole 9:  On green with drive or wedge for 2nd.

  So, looking at the above, if you can't score 30 or better, then your problem is either with your approach play (not getting the ball close enough to the hole) or your putting is poor.  Realistically, 99% of your approach wedge shots should be within 10ft maximum, and then you need to work on your putting so that 10ft'ers become a gimme.  Go find a green on STA (not #1 or #9 as they are too easy) and practice a few putts from one spot, hitting backwards and forwards to understand how wide to hit for that distance and dots moving at that speed.  And just like in real golf, learn where you don't want to be on the green that would give you an impossible putt!!

  Yes, there are deviations, but there is no 'system' to beat; to be able to consistently score 29/30/31 you simply have to practice and learn from your previous mistakes.

• 9,041 Posts

  Sat, Jul 14 2012 9:15 AM

  oilyrag:

  a score of 62 will have no effect on your average.

  61 and better will lower your average

  Where do they set the baseline ..on a par 70/72 ? or doesn't it matter as long as you shoot less than current ave on ANY course ?? Andy.

   

• alosso 21,060 Posts

  Sat, Jul 14 2012 10:35 AM

  alcaucin:

  Where do they set the baseline ..on a par 70/72 ? or doesn't it matter as long as you shoot less than current ave on ANY course ?? Andy.

  There is no baseline. Gross scores enter the ave. calculation, period. Forget about "whatnots below Par".

  That said, those courses with lower Par, e.g. RSG, may have their merits to crunch the average. 30 is only 5 under there, not 6.

• oilyrag 875 Posts

  Sat, Jul 14 2012 1:45 PM

  alcaucin:

   

  as was pointed out above... no baseline.

   

  your best scores in order are below (av64.1)

   

  68 is your highest counting score at present.

   

   

  			18 holes	sum	rd	av
  Back 9	All Players	30	60	60	1	60
  Front 9	All Players	30	60	120	2	60
  Full 18	All Players	61	61	181	3	60.33333
  Back 9	All Players	31	62	243	4	60.75
  Back 9	All Players	31	62	305	5	61
  Back 9	All Players	31	62	367	6	61.16667
  Back 9	Master	31	62	429	7	61.28571
  Back 9	All Players	31	62	491	8	61.375
  Back 9	All Players	31	62	553	9	61.44444
  Front 9	All Players	31	62	615	10	61.5
  Front 9	All Players	31	62	677	11	61.54545
  Front 9	All Players	31	62	739	12	61.58333
  Front 9	All Players	31	62	801	13	61.61538
  Front 9	Tour Master	31	62	863	14	61.64286
  Front 9	All Players	31	62	925	15	61.66667
  Front 9	Master	31	62	987	16	61.6875
  Front 9	Tour Master	31	62	1049	17	61.70588
  Front 9	All Players	31	62	1111	18	61.72222
  Full 18	All Players	62	62	1173	19	61.73684
  Full 18	Tour Master	63	63	1236	20	61.8
  Back 9	Tour Master	32	64	1300	21	61.90476
  Back 9	All Players	32	64	1364	22	62
  Back 9	Tour Master	32	64	1428	23	62.08696
  Back 9	Tour Master	32	64	1492	24	62.16667
  Back 9	Tour Master	32	64	1556	25	62.24
  Back 9	Tour Master	32	64	1620	26	62.30769
  Back 9	All Players	32	64	1684	27	62.37037
  Front 9	All Players	32	64	1748	28	62.42857
  Front 9	Tour Master	32	64	1812	29	62.48276
  Front 9	All Players	32	64	1876	30	62.53333
  Front 9	All Players	32	64	1940	31	62.58065
  Full 18	All Players	65	65	2005	32	62.65625
  Back 9	All Players	33	66	2071	33	62.75758
  Back 9	All Players	33	66	2137	34	62.85294
  Back 9	All Players	33	66	2203	35	62.94286
  Front 9	All Players	33	66	2269	36	63.02778
  Front 9	Tour Master	33	66	2335	37	63.10811
  Front 9	All Players	33	66	2401	38	63.18421
  Front 9	Tour Master	33	66	2467	39	63.25641
  Front 9	All Players	33	66	2533	40	63.325
  Front 9	All Players	33	66	2599	41	63.39024
  Front 9	Tour Master	33	66	2665	42	63.45238
  Front 9	All Players	33	66	2731	43	63.51163
  Full 18	Tour Master	66	66	2797	44	63.56818
  Back 9	Tour Master	34	68	2865	45	63.66667
  Back 9	Tour Master	34	68	2933	46	63.76087
  Back 9	Tour Master	34	68	3001	47	63.85106
  Front 9	All Players	34	68	3069	48	63.9375
  Front 9	All Players	34	68	3137	49	64.02041
  Front 9	All Players	34	68	3205	50	64.1
  Front 9	All Players	34	68	3273	51	64.17647
  Front 9	All Players	34	68	3341	52	64.25
  Front 9	Tour Master	34	68	3409	53	64.32075
  Front 9	Master	34	68	3477	54	64.38889
  Front 9	Master	34	68	3545	55	64.45455
  Front 9	All Players	34	68	3613	56	64.51786
  Full 18	All Players	68	68	3681	57	64.57895

   

• russellie 668 Posts

  Sun, Jul 15 2012 2:35 AM

  Thanks you guys for help & advice all welcome, From what you see is I play St andies.but thats not entirely true ,  Of course I have played all the others especialy  prior to TM,  until then I don,t think I played st andies at all, Bethpage is ok but a short par course, RSG I like. it's the age old question would you rather be good at one thing or average at al othersl. I Like St Andies & RSG.

  After all it's only a game !!!!

  Russ