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Sun, Jul 29 2012 8:26 PM (35 replies)
  • genorb
    1,255 Posts
    Thu, Jul 19 2012 4:56 PM

    Woodoworkery:

    I think that maybe how hard you hit the putt may have a lot to do with it. just enough to get to the hole may let the break ,break more. A little harder and the putt may hold the line a little longer before it breaks, and not make the break that much very very tricky.

    That's indeed what makes putting quite hard, you have two variables: aim + power. So there are several combinations which work. (Don't forget also that in all these 3 videos, the greens are very fast, not tourney. So I used a bit less break and hit harder).

    The safest way to putt is such as the ball will die in the cup because you avoid many lipout. But then you take the risk to get short putts once in a while (and a short putt is always a missed putt) and you need to move the aim more to counter the break. The more you move the aim the more you get errors. Indeed, even if you are accurate and can move the aim with, let says, 10% accuracy, if you have to move the aim a lot, these 10% will represent a distance larger than the size of the cup and you have more chance to miss.

    So in my view, the best is to set a power such as if you miss the putt, the ball will stop at 3-4ft behind the cup. Like this, first of all, you fix one variable (power), you are thus left with the aiming variable only, secondly, you avoid short putt, thirdly you need to move less the aim reducing the possible errors and finally such a power is still reasonable to avoid too many lipout (still they happen).

    Of course, putting is pure feeling and practicing is the key. On one day we are putting great, on the other day that's another story.

    Regards

  • Patdubois12
    609 Posts
    Fri, Jul 20 2012 10:16 AM

    I keep every little tips from those helpful videos, thanks a lot. It's good to know that top players have "routines" like i do (swing arrow near the "excellent" mark just before clicking)

    I'll keep an eye on this post.

    Thank again.

  • ljbast
    943 Posts
    Fri, Jul 20 2012 11:27 AM

      Fabian, once again you prove to be one of the greatest and most generous of gentlemen. You are a fine example of a community asset.  But I knew that long ago.

      Proud to know you, and being friends.

       LJ

  • Woodoworkery
    3,498 Posts
    Fri, Jul 20 2012 12:41 PM

    One other thing I have been trying to figure is the tolerance of the putt ( you guys might call it forgiveness )  the + / - you can be off on the aim and still go in. That is going to be very hard to do because of the different distances the ball is from the hole, and if you are off lets say 1/16 of an inch being only two grid squares away, so if you are lets say 10 grid squares away with that same 1/16 being off you could be as much as 1/2 of an inch because the error will accumulate.

     I think that knowing what side of the hole on the green is a big plus, ( I have never took the time to note these , my bad ) . We all like the thought of  holing out on the approach, but in reality what are the odds? So knowing the good part of the green to try and land on is a major plus in shooting a low score. If there is such a thing on Oakmont .......LOL. 

     So any info on that would be a great help.

    Thanks

    Gary 

  • chris5214
    1,937 Posts
    Fri, Jul 20 2012 1:03 PM

    yeah, i think putting (1 puts) are the diffirence between sub 60 and plus 60 Legends ..

    i'm still at the stage where i simply try to be inside 3yds from the hole after approach, no matter which side of the hole i end up on ..

    which again often is the diffirence between 4/5 or 6/7 under over 9 ..

  • genorb
    1,255 Posts
    Fri, Jul 20 2012 3:09 PM

    Patdubois12:

    I keep every little tips from those helpful videos, thanks a lot.

    Thanks a lot.

    ljbast:

    Fabian, once again you prove to be one of the greatest and most generous of gentlemen. You are a fine example of a community asset.  But I knew that long ago.

    Proud to know you, and being friends.

    Thanks LJ. Happy also to count you among my friends!

    hyena64:

    It's people like you that make this community great. It's one thing to offer a helpful post to a question of technique, but to give of your time & knowledge to this extent without being asked simply shows your true generosity & character.

    Thanks you very much. Be sure that there are many very nice and generous people among the top players. It's just a matter of having time to share.

    Thanks again all, much appreciated.

    Regards

  • genorb
    1,255 Posts
    Fri, Jul 20 2012 3:18 PM

    Woodoworkery:

    I think that knowing what side of the hole on the green is a big plus, (I have never took the time to note these , my bad) . We all like the thought of  holing out on the approach, but in reality what are the odds? So knowing the good part of the green to try and land on is a major plus in shooting a low score.

    So any info on that would be a great help.

    Good idea Gary. I could go over each green before an approach shot and take a screenshot when I zoom and draw on these screenshots the best area of the green to land on. This will take some time and leads to a long thread. A forum is certainly not the most appropriate layout for this but that's possible. I will also look if all this material cannot be gathered on some website.

    There will definitely be more to come, just be all patient (it takes time and I don't have much free time, well like all of us I guess).

    To all, do not hesitate to put idea on what you would like to know. If I can help, I will do.

    Regards

  • YankeeJim
    25,827 Posts
    Fri, Jul 20 2012 3:42 PM

    genorb:
    I could go over each green before an approach shot and take a screenshot when I zoom and draw on these screenshots the best area of the green to land on. This will take some time and leads to a long thread.

    Given the title of this thread, I'll bet there's plenty of players that could corroborate the best spot to shoot for on any hole. A compilation of these inputs would be a lot easier.  :-)

  • mb386
    61 Posts
    Fri, Jul 20 2012 6:13 PM

    Great post Gen as others have very well noted. I'm sure that your effort will enhance many a game.

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