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Professional Sandbaggers CC

• masterrplopster 27 Posts

  Sun, Sep 9 2012 6:48 AM

  In summary, our position:

  1. I think as do many that reaching a high level and remaining at a lower tier is acceptable. So do WGT.

  2. Those who cry 'cheat' have no argument as a players stats are available before a game commences. Both players know the score.

  3. The ony cheating that I can see is if players post high scoring rounds to increase their average score and/or lose purposely to lower their win/lose stats. This is not codoned at Professional Sandbaggers CC.

  4. The only way you can cash in your credits on WGT is to buy gift cards. I've done that, am well in profit and still playing. That makes some - like 'poor Paudie' jealous but that's his problem. As for me, I enjoyed getting my money back - and then some. I also give many gifts by the way.

  5. The charges of 'cheat', 'no life' 'scared to play on equal terms', 'unsporting' etc are groundless and no evidence has been offered at all to spport the accusations - just the words. Mostly I play TM's of a similar standing BTW.

  Finally: We play within the rules with the FULL support of WGT. The self-righteoushere might not like it, but it's true nonetheless.

• masterrplopster 27 Posts

  Sun, Sep 9 2012 7:11 AM

  Mesmorizer:

  The reason people get pissed off at people like the ones you are asking for is that you know you are better then where you currently play, a wolf in sheeps clothing. Look at your CC home page or your page talking proudly about your 250 Dollar Amazon Card, lmao. This is why people complain, you have took $1650.00 dollars of other people's money to gain $250.00 dollars? real pro you are, Professional means you do it for a living and if this is how you make money good for you but so sad and plenty of other ways to make money rather then this.

  I will leave you on this note, being able to beat anyone from the hardest tees and hardest condtions in a game makes you the best, period. Anything else is just a lie not only to the community but most important to yourself. Brag all you wish about your winnings and you new club but honestly it just shows that you and your club members have a sad life, hope it turns around for you one day.

  Your argument fails in three ways mate.

  Firstly, "you are better than where you currrently play" assumes that competence must mean climbing to the Legend tier. In fact some of us don't play tournament rounds because it's boring and lonely batting the ball around on your own. WGT have made it possible not to rise to Legend and we applaud them for that even if you don't.

  Secondly, "you have took $1650 of other peoples money" sounds like thievery. In fact they were fair heads up games between willing contestants. Your innuendo has a false basis.

  Finally, we're professional in the sense of competency not living status. The winnngs are a bonus to our joint hobby - playing WGT.

  Thus the 'sad life' tag is a bitter 'sour grapes' slur from those who've probably paid WGT fortunes to maintain their kit, balls and position. Keep paying them I say, you clearly enjoy the game. ;)

   

   

   

• cycle1979 1,555 Posts

  Sun, Sep 9 2012 8:04 AM

  Again... too bad WGT does NOTHING!  I know for a fact they see these and continue to ignore.  

• tramilleo 1,903 Posts

  Sun, Sep 9 2012 8:29 AM

  Money Is What Wgt Likes, but if this type of player drives off new money can this be good? Alas wgt has Ad money now so they don't care back in 2009 they cared because they had no ad dollars then, it was a great game until they started chasing money like a street walker lol, but Capitalism = get the dollar no matter if you have to rob,steal,scheme,kill,lie,cheat etc. So Bottom Line Is Their Profit Margin California Gaming Commission is our only course of redress

• Oldbayrunner 1,774 Posts

  Sun, Sep 9 2012 11:19 AM

  The Best solution is too not play wagered games with them.... 0 + 0 = 0 Then they have to earn their credits spending their $ or taking surveys... I don't feel for anyone who accepts and loses their credits to obvious sandbaggers. IMO if you lose your credits to them then it is your fault for accepting the match in the first place because you were willing to take the risk...just saying

• buzkashi 403 Posts

  Sun, Sep 9 2012 11:41 AM

  masterrplopster:

  In summary, our position:

  1. I think as do many that reaching a high level and remaining at a lower tier is acceptable. So do WGT.

  2. Those who cry 'cheat' have no argument as a players stats are available before a game commences. Both players know the score.

  3. The ony cheating that I can see is if players post high scoring rounds to increase their average score and/or lose purposely to lower their win/lose stats. This is not codoned at Professional Sandbaggers CC.

  4. The only way you can cash in your credits on WGT is to buy gift cards. I've done that, am well in profit and still playing. That makes some - like 'poor Paudie' jealous but that's his problem. As for me, I enjoyed getting my money back - and then some. I also give many gifts by the way.

  5. The charges of 'cheat', 'no life' 'scared to play on equal terms', 'unsporting' etc are groundless and no evidence has been offered at all to spport the accusations - just the words. Mostly I play TM's of a similar standing BTW.

  Finally: We play within the rules with the FULL support of WGT. The self-righteoushere might not like it, but it's true nonetheless.

  WGT in its profit-driven interest may allow this type of behavior and refuse to do anything about it, and you may think that you are getting one over the system and over all of the other losers and whiners who protest, but you know and we all know that your position and actions are reprehensible and dishonest.

• mnshiner 1,382 Posts

  Sun, Sep 9 2012 1:55 PM

  Do you honestly think he or she cares. All of what is happening here is that he or she is rubbing ii in WGT's face because of the way the system is set up.

  And may I add seems proud of it.

  I am surprised xxx isn't in your club yet with their high end gear shooting off of the Pro tees.

• PUHOLINO 1,189 Posts

  Sun, Sep 9 2012 1:56 PM

  As bagging goes, I've always preferred "tea" to "sand".

• MBaggese 15,372 Posts

  Sun, Sep 9 2012 3:00 PM

  masterrplopster:

   

  Mesmorizer:

  The reason people get pissed off at people like the ones you are asking for is that you know you are better then where you currently play, a wolf in sheeps clothing. Look at your CC home page or your page talking proudly about your 250 Dollar Amazon Card, lmao. This is why people complain, you have took $1650.00 dollars of other people's money to gain $250.00 dollars? real pro you are, Professional means you do it for a living and if this is how you make money good for you but so sad and plenty of other ways to make money rather then this.

  I will leave you on this note, being able to beat anyone from the hardest tees and hardest condtions in a game makes you the best, period. Anything else is just a lie not only to the community but most important to yourself. Brag all you wish about your winnings and you new club but honestly it just shows that you and your club members have a sad life, hope it turns around for you one day.

   

  Your argument fails in three ways mate.

  Firstly, "you are better than where you currrently play" assumes that competence must mean climbing to the Legend tier. In fact some of us don't play tournament rounds because it's boring and lonely batting the ball around on your own. WGT have made it possible not to rise to Legend and we applaud them for that even if you don't.

  Secondly, "you have took $1650 of other peoples money" sounds like thievery. In fact they were fair heads up games between willing contestants. Your innuendo has a false basis.

  Finally, we're professional in the sense of competency not living status. The winnngs are a bonus to our joint hobby - playing WGT.

  Thus the 'sad life' tag is a bitter 'sour grapes' slur from those who've probably paid WGT fortunes to maintain their kit, balls and position. Keep paying them I say, you clearly enjoy the game. ;)

   

   

   

   

   

  How about head to head MP in Practice mode...sleeeve of balls per game...???

   

  I'm willing to run the gauntlet through your little club, if they are willing (and yourself) to pay up.

   

  Trust me, I don't even scratch the hair on the better players here, but tee to green to hole, all things being equal, I'd own you little guys:)

  Or would you rather have your experience, clubs and an advantage to win?  If so, and that is your only way you will play...I've a few on my friends list (and know a few others quite well) that will deplete your credits stashed in a hurry.

   

  Your choice, make the call, or simply quit flaunting your inadequacies.

   

  Question, are you the type of guy who thinks because he drives a sporty convertible, his hair is no longer balding?

• PUHOLINO 1,189 Posts

  Sun, Sep 9 2012 3:31 PM

  MBaggese:

  How about head to head MP in Practice mode...sleeeve of balls per game...???

   

  I'm willing to run the gauntlet through your little club, if they are willing (and yourself) to pay up.

   

  Trust me, I don't even scratch the hair on the better players here, but tee to green to hole, all things being equal, I'd own you little guys:)

   

  I second that! (if you still have any balls, oops, I meant credits for balls left after Mbaggese is done with you, lol)