i would like to thank those that responded to my post . i dont write much becauls i cant spell very well ,i think there must be a way to put 4 peaple in a group and play , this after all is the computer age , and i would think that someone out there will come up with an answer , so hang in there and keep wacking the ball. hard case 1 (ps. if you want to keep responding to my post i,ll read em)