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FWIW - putting - Works for me

• ApexPC 3,164 Posts

  Fri, Nov 9 2012 10:52 AM

  For tournament speed greens at St. Andrews and Kiawah.

  I divided the distance by 1.3, then add any uphill value, or subtract any downhill value.

  So, if I have a 19 foot 1 inch uphill putt:

  19 divided by 1.3 = 14.62 + 1 = I need a putt stroke for 15.6 feet.

  I use a putting stroke scale on my computer display. It divides the full putt stoke on my display into 10% segments.

  For the above putt I would select the 150 foot scale and just a tbit over a 10% stroke to deliver a putt of about 16 feet. Never up! Never in! They can't go in if you leave them short.

• chrisironsbones 3,524 Posts

  Fri, Nov 9 2012 11:07 AM

  Its risky using 150 foot scale for a 15 foot putt, any miss ding will exaggerate putt well wide, best use the 25 foot scale and go a few fractions above the 10 foot avatar movement, any miss ding wont be as bad.

• ApexPC 3,164 Posts

  Sat, Nov 10 2012 2:25 PM

  By using only 7.5% of the 150 scale or 11.6% of the 100 foot scale for a 15 foot putt , I find there is a lot less chance of missing the ding.

  At any rate, if I do miss the ding slightly, the ball is so close to the hole the next putt is basically a gimme anyway.

   

• SGTBilko 1,686 Posts

  Sat, Nov 10 2012 6:31 PM

  1.3 is the common factor used for tournament in a ranked round but most of us who have been around here would tell you that WGT tweaks this on some of their tourney's. I have seen it average from around 1.24 to 1.34. For distances over 18 feet the 1.3 factor is much to fast and I calculate the speed  around 1.1 to 1.2. But there are other factors that also affect the calculation. For example there are two inherent type of putters here. There are those that move the aim point and then there are those that do utilize the early/late method. Each one has its pros and cons. Typically I fall into the 2nd type and rarely move the aim point. For most it is a preference and using this method requires a different understanding of speed requirements. Then there is the putter 1.3 is probably the best measurement to use for the nike putter but it is not a great factor for the ghost putter. 

  Due to the numerous charts and time I created this little tool to quickly calculate the speed need to calculate the required speed. the formula is easy to adjust and can be customized for each person. In a matter of seconds you can change the formula for each green speed. I also have all the original charts as well at sgt bilkos putter pal. Hope it helps.
  

• SGTBilko 1,686 Posts

  Sat, Nov 10 2012 6:34 PM

  ApexPC:

  I use a putting stroke scale on my computer display. It divides the full putt stoke on my display into 10% segments.

  Here you can download from the link I posted on the previous comment above, I think you will find it works better than any 10% scale. This is just a sample, I have them for almost all the putters.

  

• Buckeye8084 307 Posts

  Sun, Nov 11 2012 11:54 PM

  SGTBilko, I would be interested in how Old Bay came up with the excel formulas. I'm taking a Microsoft Office class right now and would like to play around with it after having some knowledge on how/why the formula's for wind were accounted for. Thanks

• SGTBilko 1,686 Posts

  Mon, Nov 12 2012 4:53 AM

  Buckeye8084:

  SGTBilko, I would be interested in how Old Bay came up with the excel formulas. I'm taking a Microsoft Office class right now and would like to play around with it after having some knowledge on how/why the formula's for wind were accounted for. Thanks

  Look him up, oldbayrunner...not sure how much he will tell you but if you know enough about excel you can see the formula....The original wind formula was a compilation of mine and a few other guys that we had on a chart. I tweaked them depending on the clubs and balls effect. The better they get the more I had to tweak. Oldbayrunner's are very unique but the work. But he and both have a few things we do not always share....lol

• ApexPC 3,164 Posts

  Mon, Nov 12 2012 9:25 AM

  Like I said. It works for me, anyone else can use it or not.

  Kiawah # 5

  41 foot, 4 break, downhill putt.

  The 1st 17 feet were uphill 1", so I used my formula to determine the stroke power for that portion of the putt. Then I did a second calculation for the remaining 24 feet that were 10" downhill.

  I then added tthe 2 calculated values together.

  http://www.wgt.com/gameclient.aspx?view=showReplay&JSON=%257B%2522GUID%2522%253A%252214e0ecb5-1862-47c5-aeca-a107011b45b2%2522%252C%2522Brand%2522%253A%2522%2522%257D

• HesheeDucky 35 Posts

  Mon, Nov 12 2012 11:55 AM

  I'm new here and just need help putting period can anyone help?

• ApexPC 3,164 Posts

  Mon, Nov 12 2012 7:59 PM

  Look through the FAQs - http://www.wgt.com/forums/t/559.aspx

  You have to gauge the speed, distance, and amount of break, if any..

  The putting stroke meter gives you several ranges. Just roll the center wheel on your mouse to scroll through t he stroke distance scales available to you.

  If you're using the Stater putter the stoke scales should be 30 feet, 60' feet 150' feet and 300 feet.

  If you use the 30 foot scale and take and 'ding' a stroke using 1/2 the meter the putt will go about 15 feet if the putt is flat.

  WGT has an accessory called Putter Pal that divided the putt stroke meter into 10% segments, or you can make your own on paper and attach it to your computer screen.