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Can someone tell me ?

• puttersman 240 Posts

  Thu, Feb 7 2013 3:16 PM

  I just played St. Andrews, before starting, my average was 67.16 I shot 3 under par 69, Can someone please tell my why my average did not move down even a bit. The day before I shot 6 under on Bethpage and my average dropped from 67.36 to its current place of 67.16, I would have thought I would see more movement with today's round.I was not expecting much , but surely something.

• BubbaCrusher007 1,567 Posts

  Thu, Feb 7 2013 3:30 PM

  I assume it's because you didn't shoot below your ave..  There's a formula & I'm sure someone can explain it better than me. Like on a par 72 you'd of had to shoot at least a '67' for it to go down. Sound logical?

• alanti 10,564 Posts

  Thu, Feb 7 2013 3:33 PM

  You obviously have reached saturation point so a score higher than you current average will not have an impact. As 69 is over your current average it will not change your average. To lower your average you need to shoot 67 or under.

• Oldbayrunner 1,774 Posts

  Thu, Feb 7 2013 4:34 PM

  Another consideration is St Andy's is a par 72 whereas Bethpage Black is a Par 70, therefore it takes a lower score on a par 72 to get lower than your average than on a par 70.

• alosso 21,083 Posts

  Thu, Feb 7 2013 5:25 PM

  Oldbayrunner:

  Another consideration is St Andy's is a par 72 whereas Bethpage Black is a Par 70, therefore it takes a lower score on a par 72 to get lower than your average than on a par 70.

  I'm sorry to say that this is not true. For the average only the gross scores count, a 70 is a 70 and a 72 is a 72. 9 hole scores are doubled, 33 => 66.

  P: Your average is well saturated (>25) as you have at least 200 combined TP stroke play and CTTH rounds in the score history.

  Therefore you don't need to shoot below your average (though this certainly helps), but lower than the highest score in the calculation. This might be 69 for example, thus only lower scores change anything.

  That said, the 69 on STA doesn't move anything. Alas, -6 on Bethpage (full round) is 64, well below the average (sic!) for a change of -0.2.

  This result caused a change of the score sum by 0.2*25 = 5, thus eliminating a 69 (64+5) in the mix.

  Now you need to shave off another 4 strokes from the calculation to become a Master.

  Have fun!

• alosso 21,083 Posts

  Thu, Feb 7 2013 6:07 PM

  You better step back - I'm 8 months late with my own tax declaration.

• MainzMan 9,591 Posts

  Thu, Feb 7 2013 10:56 PM

  alosso:

  Oldbayrunner:

  Another consideration is St Andy's is a par 72 whereas Bethpage Black is a Par 70, therefore it takes a lower score on a par 72 to get lower than your average than on a par 70.

  I'm sorry to say that this is not true. For the average only the gross scores count, a 70 is a 70 and a 72 is a 72. 9 hole scores are doubled, 33 => 66.

  I think what Oldbay means is you need to hit more birdies at St. Andrews than BPB to lower your average, which is true.  I assume that's what he meant by a lower score, you're absolutely right that a 66 is a 66, regardless of where it's scored.

  I guess a better round would be a more accurate way to put it.

• Edbeau 98 Posts

  Fri, Feb 8 2013 12:15 AM

  I think OBR is correct,,,, it is only logical .... Good replay

  Edbeau

• alosso 21,083 Posts

  Fri, Feb 8 2013 12:40 AM

  MainzMan:

  I think what Oldbay means is you need to hit more birdies at St. Andrews than BPB to lower your average, which is true.  I assume that's what he meant by a lower score, you're absolutely right that a 66 is a 66, regardless of where it's scored.

  I guess a better round would be a more accurate way to put it.

  I see your point.

  "A lower score relative to Par" is a correct statement.