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Medium vs High Loft Irons

• YankeeJim 25,827 Posts

  Thu, Jun 13 2013 5:22 AM

  FBudd:

  Well as i said, i dont have the irons i need yet, so i cant prove my point to you just yet but considering my driving accuracy and GIR % are both higher than yours, probably a better chance than you.

  LOL. Check again when you get to where Alosso is now. You're shooting from the Master tees, you can get away with using anything. Start backing up to the longer tees and you will definitely gain an appreciation for higher lofted clubs, which you will definitely be needing eventually if you want to score.

  No need to prove anything, we've all been where you are now.   :-)

• royphillips1 1,278 Posts

  Thu, Jun 13 2013 6:34 AM

  l used the L48+ Raptures  From T.Pro To Master if l Remember Right, They were Great Clubs Lovely Slow Metering, Made A Double Eagle With them, and Hit the Pin on a Par 5, Narrowly missing out on my 2, D/E,  l Switched to The G20s when they came out, As you Purchased your Raptures Recently l Dont think you have really got to Know them yet, Seems a Waste of Credits to me as the Raptures would Serve you well at least To T.Master.

• alosso 21,073 Posts

  Thu, Jun 13 2013 6:56 AM

  FBudd:

  Well as i said, i dont have the irons i need yet, so i cant prove my point to you just yet but considering my driving accuracy and GIR % are both higher than yours, probably a better chance than you.

  I got that, too - too late :)

  Just try it regardless of being better than me - it may bear some insight.

  Sorry if you felt attacked, that was not my intention. Still, with minor equipment you might see a difference in the stats of that one game.

• MBaggese 15,367 Posts

  Thu, Jun 13 2013 7:30 AM

  FBudd:

  Yeah i seem it here

  You're confusing club precision and accuracy with VEM...in fact it seems 1/2 the post these days are along the lines of 'I dinged my shot it landed 10 feet from the hole, I was vem'ed"...no, just that the clubs are not as precises and the top level clubs are.

   

  FBudd:

  So basically i ding the ball alot, a good example is a recent no wind RG on cabo, i dinged 14/18 apprach shots without moving the marker and every one of them landed 10-12 ft either side of the flag. i now know its because of my irons low precision rating.

   

  EDIT: priestest and iconian both use lvl90 R11's?

  Before all the new balls and Irons were out, the above two players were routinely shooting low 60's with Raptures and WGT balls...I should have explained it further, had Cally or Nike's been available then....mercy:)

• FBudd 208 Posts

  Thu, Jun 13 2013 4:12 PM

  I have learnt them and i do make the 12 footers, i want to have 6 fters more often than 12's so i need more precision. ty for your help.

• FBudd 208 Posts

  Thu, Jun 13 2013 9:09 PM

  MBaggese:

  FBudd:

  Yeah i seem it here

  You're confusing club precision and accuracy with VEM...in fact it seems 1/2 the post these days are along the lines of 'I dinged my shot it landed 10 feet from the hole, I was vem'ed"...no, just that the clubs are not as precises and the top level clubs are.

   

  FBudd:

  So basically i ding the ball alot, a good example is a recent no wind RG on cabo, i dinged 14/18 apprach shots without moving the marker and every one of them landed 10-12 ft either side of the flag. i now know its because of my irons low precision rating.

   

  EDIT: priestest and iconian both use lvl90 R11's?

  Before all the new balls and Irons were out, the above two players were routinely shooting low 60's with Raptures and WGT balls...I should have explained it further, had Cally or Nike's been available then....mercy:)

   

  I should of explained i play upwards of 5 hours a day so only having them for a few weeks means pro to master and a solid 140 hours or so of playing with them. I know the clubs, i can see their short falls, the medium loft and low precision simply will not do for me.

• FBudd 208 Posts

  Thu, Jun 13 2013 9:11 PM

   

  MBaggese:

  FBudd:

  Yeah i seem it here

  You're confusing club precision and accuracy with VEM...in fact it seems 1/2 the post these days are along the lines of 'I dinged my shot it landed 10 feet from the hole, I was vem'ed"...no, just that the clubs are not as precises and the top level clubs are.

   

  FBudd:

  So basically i ding the ball alot, a good example is a recent no wind RG on cabo, i dinged 14/18 apprach shots without moving the marker and every one of them landed 10-12 ft either side of the flag. i now know its because of my irons low precision rating.

   

  EDIT: priestest and iconian both use lvl90 R11's?

  Before all the new balls and Irons were out, the above two players were routinely shooting low 60's with Raptures and WGT balls...I should have explained it further, had Cally or Nike's been available then....mercy:)

  Have you read anything about VEM or even  the quote i posted in this thread from WGT staff? VEM is directly influenced by club PRECISION. There is an circle of possible variance for each club, the higher the club precision, the smaller the circle. Please read.

   

• pjctas0822 4,609 Posts

  Thu, Jun 13 2013 9:21 PM

  FBudd:

  There is an circle of possible variance for each club, the higher the club precision, the smaller the circle. Please read.

  I cant believe you all think that the circle statement is true lol.

  If it is programmed that way then as one person asked "How big is that circle" lol

  Thats a very believeable explanation but I just dont think it is accurate at all.

  My circle must be huge .

• MBaggese 15,367 Posts

  Thu, Jun 13 2013 11:11 PM

  FBudd:

  Please read.

   

  Live on.

   

  Ya know, I'd waste more time explaining things to you, but you seem so obtuse, that I may as well speak to my 11YO...at least she'd get the gist of things.

   

  I'll try one more time...and type slowly for you.

   

  VEM does not influence the clubs, it influences the player...p l e a s e   r e a d.

   

  Precision within a clubset is how accurate it (the shot) will be.

   

  Why you would, or how you would equate VEM "affecting lower level clubs" is beyond my comprehension...so please old wise one, let me know why or how or where you have heard that...referring to Niv's  "circle of Precision", based on deviation makes no mention of VEM.

   

  Please note the bolded word and try to draw a parallel to higher and lower level clubs.

   

  I'll give you a hint, it starts with P and ends with an n.

   

   

• MBaggese 15,367 Posts

  Thu, Jun 13 2013 11:15 PM

  FBudd:

  VEM is directly influenced by club PRECISION.

   

  Bzzzt!

   

  Next please.

   

  And you tell me to read.

   

  LMFAO!

   

  You've worn me out man...you win...go get the best clubs ya can, spend ya rent money...better think of them 9 dollar a sleeve balls too, because for sure, they will ward of VEM...oh...rush out for a 1000 cr Avatar to play in, heard it also takes 13.5% VEM factor off.

   

  FFS

   

  Let me know how it all works out for ya.