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If you wont fight it, join it: DING-PAL

• stevietwotimes 1,327 Posts

  Tue, Aug 6 2013 5:50 AM

  7thwave:

  Sorry, but since when does dinging "GUARANTEE" a good shot? A badly aimed but dinged shot will only be good due to VEM/Deviation/Luck!!

  at least we would be on a level playing field :)

• YankeeJim 25,827 Posts

  Tue, Aug 6 2013 6:07 AM

  Tightrope:

  2. If a timer is used to auto click, all that s needed is to add a random delay before the meter starts moving after you release the shot.

  I believe this is already in place. I see random hesitations in the meter on the down swing, (not every time) that are easily dealt with if you're a human with reactions as opposed to a timing device.

  Oddly enough, these hesitations only start after a succession of dinged shots. If you're a real person doing the dinging then you have to pay attention because those hesitations will wreak havoc on the shot if you're not ready for them.

• Tightrope 1,072 Posts

  Tue, Aug 6 2013 6:23 AM

  YankeeJim:

  Oddly enough, these hesitations only start after a succession of dinged shots.

  Explains why I never noticed that :)

• StrayedFairway 379 Posts

  Tue, Aug 6 2013 6:34 AM

  Tightrope:

  Explains why I never noticed that :)

   

  My thoughts exactly, just trying to see for myself and just can’t ding for the life of me!

• Fraenkel 2,252 Posts

  Tue, Aug 6 2013 6:35 AM

  I signed in for almost two years, 3500 strokes game done and I'm pretty sure that this type of program aid only poor people unable to play seriously and respect for others, but we all know that this is understood only for a few people.

  As already mentioned, DING insured does not guarantee anything, the variables are the positioning of the pins, the wind, the slope of the green and obviously healthy VEM.

  I enjoy it for what it is, without having to think about to cheat people like me who tries just a good pastime, I do not think WGT was born to make money but just to bring together golf enthusiasts, there are to make money online casinos or poker rooms.

  Davide.

• 893 Posts

  Tue, Aug 6 2013 6:46 AM

  Fraenkel:

  I signed in for almost two years, 3500 strokes game done and I'm pretty sure that this type of program aid only poor people unable to play seriously and respect for others, but we all know that this is understood only for a few people.

  As already mentioned, DING insured does not guarantee anything, the variables are the positioning of the pins, the wind, the slope of the green and obviously healthy VEM.

  I enjoy it for what it is, without having to think about to cheat people like me who tries just a good pastime, I do not think WGT was born to make money but just to bring together golf enthusiasts, there are to make money online casinos or poker rooms.

  Davide.

  I have to agree with  that because none of the players i know personally are running around dinging shots all day. Most i know hit bad shots when they ding because they are aimed to miss late or early. If my putts dont fall my 27s turn into 31s all day long. Numerous players have youtube vids showing great scores 55 on merion 54 on kia 56s on oakmont and etc. I think the ones that cant keep up for whatever reason tend to point fingers and say oh they have to cheat to be so consistent. But what i want to know is if the top names arent cheating then if you could ding all the time to so call level the playing field then what field are you talking about besides a tour master or lower that is trying to make legend?

• 893 Posts

  Tue, Aug 6 2013 6:52 AM

  But as far as dinging all shots as a product  to buy i say its a go. WGT you get to make some more money and the ones that say they will compete with the great ones over a ding then we shall see. But when they don't and putts don't drop then it will be said there is a putt cheat or we can move the ball in the air. Untill someone reaches their best playing ability anyone else that is better will be called a cheat that is just part of the gaming world. One more thing here is a buddy of mine who once felt it was cheating and all to be in the top 10 or compete. Well i've seen him put in more effort in 2 months on his putting than i have put into this game in a while. So i want you to watch him cheat and shoot his 26 with plenty of missed dings and keep up the good work liz told you it pays off to put in the effort just sucks to be a cheat when you are playing your best. So if he doesnt win that rg then i guess the one who beat him will have a auto dinger i mean that has to be the logic since he shot 26 right? 

• Mushy01 2,567 Posts

  Tue, Aug 6 2013 7:04 AM

  I can see it now .....

  NEW POST.     My Ding as lost its Dong

  I recently purchased the DingAid for 1,000 hits , blah blah blah.......

  would make a change to read something else i suppose, and WGT could sell their own aid for less than the illegal one is sold for.

• chrisironsbones 3,524 Posts

  Tue, Aug 6 2013 7:24 AM

  Talking about cheats, i saw a guy on sky sports news called A-Rod denying he was using a auto ding batting device???

• Covenant 1,498 Posts

  Tue, Aug 6 2013 7:44 AM

  Funny thing in this all is that there seems some kind of concensus that ding a shot is not even that important in the game, there are a lot more things playing along in making a good shot.

  Partially I agree to that, we have to calculate what strength we want to hit the ball and in what direction, but if we gain experience through playing, i did almost 8500 ranked rounds, we get a pretty good feel about what to do. The only thing remaining is hitting the ball at the right moment, preferably on or nearby the ding, because that our most stable point of origin.

  Whats left is a putt, which still has to be made, but its much easier when the ball ends up within a few yards.

   

  Furthermore are the two most wellknown cheating programs based on the fact of a perfect ding: ones slows the meter down, the other gives you a ding every time.

   

  So my question: what do you think is the percentage of importance of a ding? And if it is not even that important, why not make it available for everyone and take the cheating programs basically out of the equasion?