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Tue, Oct 8 2013 7:40 PM (9 replies)
  • KGOldWolf
    169 Posts
    Sun, Oct 6 2013 12:26 AM

    I'm a Tour Master and I thought rounds of -3 would reduce the rating.  I've had several recently and no change in rating has occurred.  What am I missing?

     

    Thanks,

    KG

  • ZioMio
    4,680 Posts
    Sun, Oct 6 2013 12:03 PM

    Best of Par 5s do not count, I see only one 33 this month.

  • alosso
    21,066 Posts
    Sun, Oct 6 2013 1:19 PM

    33 doubles to 66.

    How should a 66 score lower a 64 average? Wouldn't it rather move up, unless saturated?

  • KGOldWolf
    169 Posts
    Mon, Oct 7 2013 5:49 PM

    One of us missed the point...... I was told that -3 rounds reduced the rating.  That is apparently wrong  (I was unaware that best of par 5s didn't count.) 

    So what you are saying is -3 do not lower ratings automatically.  And since ratings are based on recorded scores, there is an advantage to quitting despite what WGT says. 

    That's too bad.

  • CerinoDevoti
    3,232 Posts
    Mon, Oct 7 2013 6:46 PM

    KGOldWolf:

    One of us missed the point...... I was told that -3 rounds reduced the rating.  That is apparently wrong  (I was unaware that best of par 5s didn't count.) 

    So what you are saying is -3 do not lower ratings automatically.  And since ratings are based on recorded scores, there is an advantage to quitting despite what WGT says. 

    That's too bad.

    The math couldn't be simpler. Just shoot rounds under your current average and it goes down. You can't make an average lower with a higher number.

    There's no advantage to quitting unless being a quitter is a life goal.

  • alosso
    21,066 Posts
    Mon, Oct 7 2013 10:30 PM

    First of all, what is a -3? Is it 69 on STA 18 holes, or 31 = 62 on Oly front 9?
    It's gross scores counting, not any relative to Par., 9 hole scores doubled.

    Second, did you ever come across "average calculation" in your math class? It's the concept of adding up a bunch of numbers, e.g. 60 + 62 + 64 + 66 + 68 = 320 and dividing this number by the count of numbers (= 5), 320 / 5 resulting in an average of 64.

    Third, do you have an idea what a number above the average would do to the average when being added? Think of a 68, would it rise or drop it? Correct answer being "rise"...

    Four, a difficult thing. WGT averages "saturate", i.e. there is a max number of scores dependant on the tier. A Hack's average includes the five best scores for instance. So, playing another 68 would not affect the average above, but a 67 would, kicking out the highest number, 68, and resulting in a calculation of 60 + 62 + 64 + 66 + 68 67 = 319, average 63.8.

    Now you're ready for a test: What would change when playing another 67?

    KGOldWolf:
    So what you are saying is -3 do not lower ratings automatically.  And since ratings are based on recorded scores, there is an advantage to quitting despite what WGT says. 
    Five: Nope!

    Posting a high score instead of quitting would not affect the average once there are enough better rounds. In that example above, it's irrelevant if the player posted a 70 or 80 or whatever before - they are out of the equation.

    Of course there'd be less balls used up, and temporarily a lower average would show (good for the ego), but you miss to practice the back holes of the courses which might cost you more time in the end. "Jeez, what a strange hole!?! Wonder why I play so bad on the finishing stretch!"

    Have fun!

  • KGOldWolf
    169 Posts
    Tue, Oct 8 2013 3:36 PM

    Gee, I asked a simple question and I get a pedantic, condescending answer from a fatuous oaf..... you need to get out more often... this is just a game and I apparently I was misinformed....simple enough.  I sought an explanation and received your self-indulgent tedium.

    "Argo" and be sure to have fun doing it!

  • CerinoDevoti
    3,232 Posts
    Tue, Oct 8 2013 6:35 PM

    KGOldWolf:

    Gee, I asked a simple question and I get a pedantic, condescending answer from a fatuous oaf..... you need to get out more often... this is just a game and I apparently I was misinformed....simple enough.  I sought an explanation and received your self-indulgent tedium.

    "Argo" and be sure to have fun doing it!

     

    Hey Bro,

    Your issue is with whoever told you that nonsense. Don't write on my wall again unless it's a pledge to pay for my candy.

    Argopolis

  • mkg335
    5,491 Posts
    Tue, Oct 8 2013 7:40 PM

    KGOldWolf:

    Gee, I asked a simple question and I get a pedantic, condescending answer from a fatuous oaf..... you need to get out more often... this is just a game and I apparently I was misinformed....simple enough.  I sought an explanation and received your self-indulgent tedium.

    "Argo" and be sure to have fun doing it!

    You ask a question, get some perfectly fine answers and explanations, and your response is to insult the gentlemen who took the time to help you?  Not only that, you feel the need to litter their walls with insults?

    I fart in your general direction.  I don't want to talk to you no more, you empty headed animal food trough wiper. Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries. Now go away before I'm forced to taunt you a second time.

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