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2 putting methods-ding-challenged & dingers

• Jimbog1964 8,378 Posts

  Mon, Oct 7 2013 6:52 AM

  From an old thread, but explains all the science pretty well.  

  I can't speak for the esteemed author, but I think most would agree choose carefull within your chosen style, then also spend a long time learning your putter:

  WGTniv:

  Hi Pebbles,

  Balance works with the putter's precision rating and represents consistency throughout the different distance increments of your putter.  The higher the balance rating, the more you can rely on the ball consistently going the distance you've struck your putt, especially so on longer putts.  Balance also works with forgiveness in a very similar manner to help reign in the effect of off-center hits, also making them react more consistently on longer putts.

  Hope that answers your question. =)

• WigerToods2010 8,447 Posts

  Mon, Oct 7 2013 6:55 AM

  andyson:

  One drawback is you need to be more precise on your pull back so the use of a Putter Pal or scale on your meter is important

  I've heard the following works fine for those wishing to save credits on 'putter pal'.

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• YankeeJim 25,827 Posts

  Mon, Oct 7 2013 6:58 AM

  IRISHPUNK:

  "This is easy to see if you use avatar movements."  

  Avatar Movements?

  The putting method laid out in the Putting Tips. It precludes having to use PutterPal and homemade scales.  :-)

• IRISHPUNK 4,019 Posts

  Mon, Oct 7 2013 7:43 AM

  YankeeJim:

  IRISHPUNK:

  "This is easy to see if you use avatar movements."  

  Avatar Movements?

  The putting method laid out in the Putting Tips. It precludes having to use PutterPal and homemade scales.  :-)

  I'll take a look.  Thanks.

• YankeeJim 25,827 Posts

  Mon, Oct 7 2013 8:40 AM

  IRISHPUNK:

  I'll take a look.  Thanks.

  Word of caution-you have almost 20,000 putts and decent stats on the greens. Whatever you're doing seems to be working for you and switching to avatar moves might cause you some grief. I've been using them from Day 1 so they're second nature but that didn't happen in a short time.  ;-)

• IRISHPUNK 4,019 Posts

  Mon, Oct 7 2013 1:27 PM

  YankeeJim:

  IRISHPUNK:

  I'll take a look.  Thanks.

  Word of caution-you have almost 20,000 putts and decent stats on the greens. Whatever you're doing seems to be working for you and switching to avatar moves might cause you some grief. I've been using them from Day 1 so they're second nature but that didn't happen in a short time.  ;-)

  I like to know everything so it's just more for curiosity than anything else.  Thanks for the compliment.

   

• Boomerboy44 1,514 Posts

  Mon, Oct 7 2013 4:08 PM

  Seems I read in the  forums  awhile back that if your 1 putt stat was 50% or better you where considered a good putter. Check out some of the GREATS putting seats.

• andyson 6,415 Posts

  Mon, Oct 7 2013 7:33 PM

  YankeeJim:

  jsweetcr:

  when i miss ding by accident on a larger scale, TO ME, it does seem like it goes further offline.

  It does but for a different reason-the larger scales require serious attention to be paid to that ding. A one pixel miss on a 15 foot scale has a chance. At the same distance a 1 pixel miss on the 100 scale is not the same simply because that pixel is worth more in distance and the miss is slightly exaggerated.

  I'm not quite sure what your saying Jim.  "1 pixel miss on the 100 scale is not the same simply because that pixel is worth more in distance"?

  Power is not measured from the ding line.  Here's how I think about the meter:

  

  Two sections.  One for measuring Power and a separate section for what I'll call measuring Accuracy.  In the above image I've pulled back for 9 ft of power.  Note where it starts.

  Once we release the mouse the game records where the Power was in the Power section.  When we click, the game records where we clicked relative to the ding.  Those blue "forgiveness areas"  are the same size no matter which scale.

  A one pixel miss will be recorded the same regardless of what the power scale is set at.  They're independent.

  YankeeJim:

  This is easy to see if you use avatar movements. Basically, and I believe Bollox pointed this out a few years ago, you have less of a margin for error when using those higher scales for shorter putts and misses will hurt more.

  Here's what AvatarLee said about using larger scales.  Maybe that's what you remember?

  Its all about Power sensitivity increasing with a larger scale.

   

• YankeeJim 25,827 Posts

  Tue, Oct 8 2013 5:19 AM

  andyson:

  'm not quite sure what your saying Jim.  "1 pixel miss on the 100 scale is not the same simply because that pixel is worth more in distance"?

  Simple. When using avatar moves to gauge distance the value of the meter movement increases as you increase the scale. One pixel on the 15 scale is not the same as one pixel on the 50 scale in terms of distance.

  By way of example, if I have a 15 foot putt and use the 50 foot scale (92 Ghost) one move gets that 15 feet. If I miss the ding by a pixel the putt will sometimes drop. If I use the 100 scale, cancel the first move (same as 50 foot scale, full move) and miss by that same pixel that putt is less likely to get lucky and go in.

  That link is not what I was remembering-Sam was the one I remember pointing out what I mentioned.

• MBaggese 15,367 Posts

  Tue, Oct 8 2013 7:37 AM

  What I notice using higher scales, is just what YJ mentions...additionally I notice using higher  scales, putts tend to start off and hold on the preferred line.