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less than 3ft from the hole - it selects 60ft

• JazzX 19 Posts

  Sat, Oct 26 2013 4:43 PM

  Yes - twice in my last game I had situations where I was less than 30ft from the hole.

  1: Automatically, I assumed the gauge would be set to 30ft and prepared my shot as carefully as I could within the 45 second time limit.

  Then "ding!" - I hit the shot perfect, I knew it would be close to the hole.

  Imagine my horror when the ball went zooming over to the other side of the green and into the water!! - I looked to my left "60 feet" .... did I just imagine it, or mis-click?

  ... and no, it wasn't like a 60 foot downwards putt where I only needed to hit for 20 feet, it was fairly flat

   

  2: I'm 2.5 feet from the hole ... this is a routine slow green shot which I duly execute.

  WHIZZZ!!!! - the ball bounces out of the hole and multiple feet away thereafter ...

  I look to my left for an explanation .. "60 feet"

   

  It didn't happen again in the rest of the game. But I've been on here for two months at least and never had this happen before.

  (Of course, I have succumbed to the automatic 150 feet that they stupidly use on the fringe, on multiple occasions)

  Maybe the easiest solution is to print it just above the cursor/mouse pointer "gauge set to 30ft" because when you're thinking about the fine details of your putt, you often just assume the gauge is set to a sensible value and only find out the hard way when you execute your carefully planned putt perfectly only to find it reaches the trees on the far side.

   

   

• MainzMan 9,591 Posts

  Sat, Oct 26 2013 10:45 PM

  The caddy doesn't seem to take slopes into account when he picks a putter scale, he just looks at the distance.  And when you have a 28 foot putt you usually get given the next scale up from 30.  Iron shots are similar, I think Icon once said that if the distance to the flag is within 5 yards of the distance for a club the caddy gives you the next one.

  As Hyena already said, always double check what you're about to play, on any shot.  The caddy is particularly stupid when it comes to short shots around the green, he'll often suggest a chip for a 20 yard+ shot, even though it has zero chance of working.

  hyena64:

    

  Oh, & never assume anything anywhere.  Good rule to live by.              :-)

  Yup.

• JazzX 19 Posts

  Sat, Oct 26 2013 11:18 PM

  MainzMan:

  The caddy doesn't seem to take slopes into account when he picks a putter scale, he just looks at the distance.  And when you have a 28 foot putt you usually get given the next scale up from 30.  Iron shots are similar, I think Icon once said that if the distance to the flag is within 5 yards of the distance for a club the caddy gives you the next one.

  As Hyena already said, always double check what you're about to play, on any shot.  The caddy is particularly stupid when it comes to short shots around the green, he'll often suggest a chip for a 20 yard+ shot, even though it has zero chance of working.

  hyena64:

    

  Oh, & never assume anything anywhere.  Good rule to live by.              :-)

  Yup.

  No.

  "Just check" is simply not good enough.

  I have never come across a real life golfer who whacked his 2 foot putt 60 feet across the green and said "I forgot to check whether I was setting up for a short putt or not - it must have been a 60 footer in my head"

  Why travel the world taking thousands of photographs of golf courses?

  Why take the information from space satellites mapping the Earth?

  All - presumably - to make it the "most accurate golf simulation ever".

   

  And then you make it so a routine shot is ruined by a bug in the program.

  This simply MUST be sorted out.

   

  It's easy - auto-select the gauge according to the distance to the hole.

  That's all that is required - easy.

  So, if your putt is 31 feet away - the gauge selects 60 feet and it's up to you to make adjustments.

  29 feet - and you get a 30 foot gauge, even if the hole is 10 feet up.

  That's fair.

   

  But 2 feet - I'm entitled not to think that it will be anything different to 30 feet - after thousands of routine putts at that distance without having to look to the bottom left of the screen to confirm.

   

• alosso 21,066 Posts

  Sat, Oct 26 2013 11:46 PM

  Rule One in this game: "Consider the caddy a dicey drunken bloke, never trust him
  (except for pulling the flag on the green)"

  Putting scale selection seems to follow some inconsistant "rules". More than once have I been trapped by a 15 scale for a 12+ feet shot when a 24+ shot would have caused the 60 scale to pop up.

  And yes, elevation changes are not included in these "rules".

  Add that on fringes, always a longer scale will be selected, 90, 150, 300 for 20 ft shots and less.

  "Chip" is invariably selected within approx. 20 yds of the hole regardless of the situation, rough, bunker ...  IMHO, this is the most ill-proposed shot in the game, because it only works when the ball will land on fringe or green after 20% of the desired distance. Add that chipping with Starter wedges is difficult close to impossibility (unless you have Legend skills).

  Pitches, similar. Undue selection within a certain range regardless of circumstances, but it must land on FW or smoother surface after 40-60% of the distance.

  As an anecdote, when I had a 3WD in my bag playing longer than the Starter driver, I always had to select it manually. The usual proposal was "Driver".

• 2,840 Posts

  Sat, Oct 26 2013 11:53 PM

  JazzX:

  Yes - twice in my last game I had situations where I was less than 30ft from the hole.

  1: Automatically, I assumed the gauge would be set to 30ft and prepared my shot as carefully as I could within the 45 second time limit.

  Then "ding!" - I hit the shot perfect, I knew it would be close to the hole.

  Imagine my horror when the ball went zooming over to the other side of the green and into the water!! - I looked to my left "60 feet" .... did I just imagine it, or mis-click?

  ... and no, it wasn't like a 60 foot downwards putt where I only needed to hit for 20 feet, it was fairly flat

   

  2: I'm 2.5 feet from the hole ... this is a routine slow green shot which I duly execute.

  WHIZZZ!!!! - the ball bounces out of the hole and multiple feet away thereafter ...

  I look to my left for an explanation .. "60 feet"

   

  It didn't happen again in the rest of the game. But I've been on here for two months at least and never had this happen before.

  (Of course, I have succumbed to the automatic 150 feet that they stupidly use on the fringe, on multiple occasions)

  Maybe the easiest solution is to print it just above the cursor/mouse pointer "gauge set to 30ft" because when you're thinking about the fine details of your putt, you often just assume the gauge is set to a sensible value and only find out the hard way when you execute your carefully planned putt perfectly only to find it reaches the trees on the far side.

   

   

  Something isn't adding up, on a 3 ft putt using a 30 ft meter you would do 10%-15% max.  So on a 60 ft meter even if you did the 15% that would only be 9 feet.  So if it hit the cup, the most past the hole you would be a foot or two, depending on green speed and down slope.  It doesn't sound like the ball would go whizzing by the hole.  Not sure how far you were from the hole or what course on your first example, but the same concept would apply.  It would be fairly strange for the ball to go all the way to the other side of the green.

  The advice the other players are giving you is good.  Always double check and if you want to be even more sure about the distances, a putter with a shorter meter, like 10-15 feet, may help or even putter pal. 

  But if you do ever run into a problem like this again where the ball whizzes across the green make sure to save a replay.

   

  - WGTdbloshoe

• JazzX 19 Posts

  Sun, Oct 27 2013 12:51 AM

  Don't get me wrong.

  I've enjoyed playing this game for two months - but there are things that seriously need to be improved. And this is an extremely easy one to rectify. Just make sure that the default club/distance auto-selected is equal to or less than the distance to the hole.

  What's wrong with that?

  As we only get 10 replays, I would much rather use them for moments of brilliance (why - oh WHY! - are we restricted to just 10 replays??) ... rather than proving to the likes of you that I am not a liar.

• JazzX 19 Posts

  Sun, Oct 27 2013 1:10 AM

  my figures for part 2 add up properly.

  It was slow greens, fairly flat - I was 2.5 feet away.

  I did a standard 20% shot to make sure - even if I blew it, I would be at worst 2 feet next shot.

  I ended up 13 feet away (maybe you're confusing your own figures with part one of my post - which features a much larger distance).

  13 feet away on a 2 foot putt .. something went wrong yes?

  My rank is Tour Pro, achieved over at least 2 months, I know how to play this game; and this wasn't right at all - and I've only recently noticed multiple bugs. The last couple of updates MUST be responsible.

• PaulTon 10,731 Posts

  Sun, Oct 27 2013 3:20 PM

  JazzX:

  My rank is Tour Pro, achieved over at least 2 months, I know how to play this game; and this wasn't right at all - and I've only recently noticed multiple bugs. The last couple of updates MUST be responsible.

  This made me laugh, thanks man.