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Sun, Nov 3 2013 5:55 PM (7 replies)
  • Crowfl56
    35 Posts
    Thu, Oct 31 2013 10:26 AM

    Ok just played St. Andrews back 9, very fast greens and I just can't figure out what the game wants???????????  One hole I had what should have been an easy 12' putt up hill 1", so on a very fast surface hitting the ball 12' should have been plenty fast, but no it stopped short.  COME ON :(

    Not only that I'm using vapor trail balls to see my line better, and I have rolled over the cup 3 time's with ball completely inside the cup, miss, miss, miss. COME ON, what do I do, i'm beside myself on how to correct????????????

  • jsweetcr
    1,209 Posts
    Thu, Oct 31 2013 11:08 AM

    Depends on your putter. With my putter i find that anything below tourney greens i have to have multiple adjustments for the different scales.  Everyone has different factors and how they calculate but the way i was told to do it was  dividing the distance by 1.2 for VF, then adding a foot for every inch uphill and subtracting for downhill works. Well on Very fast greens that doesn't work with my putter. On my 10 foot scale i have to just hit it straight up. So if it is level and 8 feet i hit it 8ft sometimes a bit more.  When i move to my 20 foot i have to do about the same up to about14 or 15 feet then i can take a foot or so off, then once i get to my 30 foot scale i actually divide by less then 1.2, more like 1.15 or 1.18. Find those all that works perfectly for me.

    So for me if i had that putt i would have hit for 13 feet, cuz i wouldn't have subtracted anything for VF and i would have added a foot for the uphill. Hitting firmer is always better, IMO better to be 2-4 feet long than even 2 inches short. You can't every sink a putt if it lands short and pretty much anything inside 4 feet should be makeable.  Plus hitting firmer can sometimes help ball keep line better, although you said there was no break.

    Then there is variation which i am not even going to get into.

    Live and learn i guess

  • borntobesting
    9,695 Posts
    Thu, Oct 31 2013 11:10 AM

    Crowfl56:
    One hole I had what should have been an easy 12' putt up hill 1", so on a very fast surface hitting the ball 12' should have been plenty fast, but no it stopped short.

    On uphill putts it is always a good idea to drag your cursor a little past the hole when lining up your putt. You might see that even though the elevation might be only 1 inch uphill below the hole it might be 2, 3 or even more just beyond the hole making it necessary to hit your putt harder. 

  • Crowfl56
    35 Posts
    Thu, Oct 31 2013 5:15 PM

    thank you for the insight :)

  • siggipj76
    2,989 Posts
    Thu, Oct 31 2013 5:32 PM

    yes 12 and 1 , might be 13 and 2 if you look above the hole.

     

  • Chinajohn
    1,190 Posts
    Thu, Oct 31 2013 7:50 PM

    In addition to what everyone else has already said. Some holes have 'anomalies' if you get the same 'anomaly' twice having dinged the shot, note it down for the next time. Personally I keep my notes on the PC and first instance I shade in yellow, and then if it happens again I change it to red. Any notes in red I know are 'true'. I've now got such notes on about 50% of holes!! Olympic is the worst, but St Andrews has a few particularly on slower greens, on some holes it appears some %$#@ has built a raised lip around the hole!

  • ApexPC
    3,164 Posts
    Sat, Nov 2 2013 12:46 PM

    On a windy course like St. Andrews, don't forget to account for wind when it blowing kind of hard.

    Putting straight into a 20 mph headwind will require a little extra putting stroke strength.

    Cross and quartering wind can also affect the break.

  • gr8flbob
    592 Posts
    Sun, Nov 3 2013 5:55 PM

    ApexPC:

    On a windy course like St. Andrews, don't forget to account for wind when it blowing kind of hard.

    Putting straight into a 20 mph headwind will require a little extra putting stroke strength.

    Cross and quartering wind can also affect the break.

    +1 for wind impact

    I see very little influence on break vs crosswind, but for strong headwind (>10 mph) I add maybe 5% - 10% depending on strength of wind. For OP's putt of 10 or 12 ft, at SA where 20mph is not uncommon, that's an extra foot. For downwind putts reverse: take off 5%-10%.

     

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