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Mon, Nov 4 2013 9:53 PM (14 replies)
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  • darrenpaulLMB
    180 Posts
    Thu, Oct 31 2013 11:38 AM

    Has anyone else had this?

    I won't specify a particular hole or course because it happens a lot. but one shot in particular, I was in a shallow bunker 31 yards from the pin, I tried a pitch shot with a 54 tour w wedge which should have gone 34 yards. I put the green dot in the center of the ball, full swing and the ball went 3 yards. WTF is going on? the ball was hardly in the sand too which is even more annoying. as I said this has happened a lot to me in the time I have been playing.

    I also noticed that the free Halloween ball was a load of shite, it has 4.5 dots for distance instead of the 2 dots the srixon z star balls I currently have. but in a round on oakmont every shot came up short. with my ping g10 8.0 driver, the ball usually hits the ground at about 270 yards, more or less depending on wind strength and direction. but with this free ball it hardly reached 250 yards unless there was a strong tail wind. when it was taken out of play and replaced by the default balls, my distance and accuracy suddenly improved.also while using the free ball, the meter never stopped jumping which is something that hasn't happened to me for a long time.

    I have had a lot of problems with this game in the past but nothing like this.

  • alosso
    21,067 Posts
    Thu, Oct 31 2013 1:18 PM

    Pitch from bunker has reduced length by the percentage, at least. Your 34 yds pitch was worth 12(?) from  30/40 sand, perhaps nil from more %% or if you miss the ding too far.

    I rather use punch or full shots from bunkers...

  • courteneyfish
    15,796 Posts
    Thu, Oct 31 2013 1:37 PM

    Definitely full shot from that distance. You can go right down the meter for different distances.

  • darrenpaulLMB
    180 Posts
    Fri, Nov 1 2013 6:23 PM

    A full shot would go flying past the hole. a shorter swing based on the distance would result in the ball falling short or not even making it out of the bunker.

  • gr8flbob
    592 Posts
    Fri, Nov 1 2013 6:51 PM

    My formula for longer bunker (full shot, spin dot 'just' buried in sand): 

    Yardage to pin + elev to pin(in ft) + 8-10 yds for 30-40 sand. assume a fair roll-out after landing, as that backspin will get scrubbed off by the sand

    40-50? add 15- 20 yds to dist +elev result.

    All that's with my CG15 wedges; your mileage may vary, lol.

    Punch is also effective from deeper lie and may be required

     

     

  • Chinajohn
    1,190 Posts
    Fri, Nov 1 2013 7:36 PM

    darrenpaulLMB:

    Has anyone else had this?

    I won't specify a particular hole or course because it happens a lot. but one shot in particular, I was in a shallow bunker 31 yards from the pin, I tried a pitch shot with a 54 tour w wedge which should have gone 34 yards. I put the green dot in the center of the ball, full swing and the ball went 3 yards. WTF is going on? the ball was hardly in the sand too which is even more annoying. as I said this has happened a lot to me in the time I have been playing.

    I also noticed that the free Halloween ball was a load of shite, it has 4.5 dots for distance instead of the 2 dots the srixon z star balls I currently have. but in a round on oakmont every shot came up short. with my ping g10 8.0 driver, the ball usually hits the ground at about 270 yards, more or less depending on wind strength and direction. but with this free ball it hardly reached 250 yards unless there was a strong tail wind. when it was taken out of play and replaced by the default balls, my distance and accuracy suddenly improved.also while using the free ball, the meter never stopped jumping which is something that hasn't happened to me for a long time.

    I have had a lot of problems with this game in the past but nothing like this.

     

    I copied and summarised this from another poster whose name I forget (so sorry I cannot credit your work). I almost always use a choked down full shot but it's the distance that matters, but DON'T try a chip, flop or pitch.

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    Bunkers

    From 20% sand

    I found that combined yardage (of distance and elevation) of over 35yds where elevation exceeds 6ft needs 3 yards added.  (ball will roll further)

     

    Over 35yds (combined) with elevation lower than 6ft, add 4yds

     

    Less than 35yds (combined) and elevation is above 5ft, add 4yds

    Less than 35yds and elevation is below 5ft add 4/5yds.

     

    So, to clarify. If the pin is 25yds away and 4ft above your lie, 25+4+5 = 34yd swing.

     

    Of course, uphill, downhill and greens that break hard left or right will need to be adjusted to. I've also not mentioned wind either. Unless your playing in high winds, these figures are good in my experience.

     

    From 40% sand 

     

    combined yardage of 20-30, add 12

    combined yardage of 30-40, add 11.

    combined yardage of 40-45, add 10

    combined yardage over 45, add 9.

    Again, compensate for your surroundings.

     

    60% sand lie 

     

    Combined yardage of below 30, add 16yds.

    30-40, add 17.

    40-50, add 18

    over 50 combined yds, add 19.

     

    I tend to use full back spin on longer shots, where greens slope away from me and on deep lies. All others, I place the dot where the sand meets the ball.

     

  • courteneyfish
    15,796 Posts
    Sun, Nov 3 2013 10:03 PM

    darrenpaulLMB:

    A full shot would go flying past the hole. a shorter swing based on the distance would result in the ball falling short or not even making it out of the bunker.

    Thanks. I guess that's why my stats are so poor then. :-)

     

  • stevenharkin
    1,921 Posts
    Mon, Nov 4 2013 1:50 AM

    I always struggled with bunker shots in my early days, but then I got good advice from PGAbound67 and I have stuck with it to this day.

    30/40 bunker I'l add 14 yards with full bs and use full shot

    40/50 bunker i'l add 17 yards with full back spin and full shot

    I wouldnt worry too much about wind and elevation when in and around greenside bunkers

    I know there is guys out there with better stats with me and im sure they use flop and pitch shots.

    But for me, I use full shot every time. That is with the little 50 yarder club.

    Hope this helps :)

     

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