I may have been a bit harsh before. Do any of you know how many tip giving posts are out there? How many videos of actual play? How many tutorial videos containing actual play? I am not good at this game..I simply watched a ton of videos and tutorials. I combed the threads and the internet on tips for wind, rough, sand, club selection. I have spent hours upon hours watching how to play this game. With the tutorial videos you don't just see what they are doing and read how they do it....you see what club they use, the exact amount of backspin, how they hit the ball...whether they ding or not. You also get to see how a lot of the courses play out. I have gotten so much from the knowledge and frustration of others. Players have put those tools and such out there for new people to watch, learn, and practice...before they go out and shoot a tournament. Why would I not take advantage of all of it? Why would I blindly,stupidly, and stubbornly try to figure it all out on my own when help is so widely and willingly given. Implementing it all is tricky sometimes, but WGT provides tools to help with that. Heck, if the meters too fast....buy a ball that slows it to a crawl, if you are struggling with how much distance you need out of a club on a shot....get shot pal, putter pal, or WGT Caddy. It's a game that requires knowledge (which has been so awesomely given by all), hand eye coordination (which I have), and the money to get the clubs and balls that make a world of difference. My 58 on b9 of congressional was with starter balls and clubs....I went through it hitting the club they gave..no spin or marker movement. I was trying out missing the meter like I saw in a video. Could I have shot better? Yes. I had gone through the course at least 5 times in practice...shooting each hole till I got par or better. If I failed to get par, I exited the practice round and started over....I have shot a lot of the holes many times. I was kinda puzzled by what courteneyfish wrote...but now I have searched the threads and see what they were talking about. I have no other accounts on WGT, but I have used all of the information and tools that have been provided so that I can play my best. And I saw your stats...I do not have one stat that is better than yours.... let alone a lot of them.