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Fri, Feb 7 2014 4:19 AM (5 replies)
  • gdog8
    1,356 Posts
    Thu, Feb 6 2014 3:51 PM

    I know It can effect direction of putts.  But can it effect putt strength just had a 2.8 ft put go by by 21+ft.  I'm 100 percent positive I had it on the 15ft putter scale I use a level 70 versa putter and barely hit the thing about 3ft.  Also any strange replays and explanations of how vem is effecting your shots with what u actually hit and the replay showing how vem effected your shot would be nice to see.  Thank you for any and all comments in advance-gdog8

  • Cheese000
    194 Posts
    Thu, Feb 6 2014 4:12 PM

    gdog8:

    I know It can effect direction of putts.  But can it effect putt strength just had a 2.8 ft put go by by 21+ft.  I'm 100 percent positive I had it on the 15ft putter scale I use a level 70 versa putter and barely hit the thing about 3ft.  Also any strange replays and explanations of how vem is effecting your shots with what u actually hit and the replay showing how vem effected your shot would be nice to see.  Thank you for any and all comments in advance-gdog8

    VEM does affect direction of putts, and the most likely explanation is that it was on the wrong scale, but if not it could be a couple other things. For example, if you're on Legend tourney greens and it's downhill (assuming it was) 2in or so, it could end up rolling by six feet by if you didn't get the break right. 21ft, I don't know, it must be that your ball caught a ridge and rolled down it, that's the only possible thing besides being on the wrong scale, which you claim you weren't.

    VEM is hard to just see in replays, but what it basically is, and this is similar to something Icon said, if two players are hitting 190 to the hole with the exact same spin and distance, no wind, the balls would land on top of each other. VEM randomizes it a bit, not so much as 30ft apart, but you get my point. Also, I do believe sometimes VEM affects a dinged shot starting out off-line, where then it would be 30ft and more away.

    Hope this helped, 

    Cheese

  • andyson
    6,415 Posts
    Thu, Feb 6 2014 5:36 PM

    Cheese000:
    something Icon said, if two players are hitting 190 to the hole with the exact same spin and distance, no wind, the balls would land on top of each other.

    That is not correct and Icon never said it.  Search for a WGTIcon circle of precision post.  Here's just one.

  • fatdan
    3,379 Posts
    Thu, Feb 6 2014 5:50 PM

    It's a bug that happens now and then on short putts...I have had no less than 20 of them set on the lowest power and it blasts the putt 8-12 feet by the hole...

  • Cheese000
    194 Posts
    Fri, Feb 7 2014 4:13 AM

    andyson:

    Cheese000:
    something Icon said, if two players are hitting 190 to the hole with the exact same spin and distance, no wind, the balls would land on top of each other.

    That is not correct and Icon never said it.  Search for a WGTIcon circle of precision post.  Here's just one.

    Sorry, mate, but I'm sure that's spot on word for word. I'll even look for it if you want.

  • Cheese000
    194 Posts
    Fri, Feb 7 2014 4:19 AM

    http://www.wgt.com/forums/p/215892/1545578.aspx

     

    VEM= very evil moderation and I keep knocking on your door cause I am hungry!

    as for VEM, it add's realistic conditions to the game because nothing is exact in real life and no 2 shots should be same. same for wind gusts, and such...

    imagine if 4 players all hit 195 club, not changing aim or spin and having 0 mph wind... then all 4 would land on top of each other or if first holed out, then other 3 would too!

    -wgticon

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