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Flight MH370 Missing

• overtheedge 5,885 Posts

  Wed, Mar 19 2014 8:22 AM

  alanti:

  Firstly I will apologise if my injected humour upset anyone. Personally I thought it was funny considering the circumstances insofar as we really have no idea where it is.

  No need to apologize Al. Sometimes laughter can lighten up a down trodden topic as this.

  This is truly a sad event. Assumptions and speculation is all we have now. As for the plane being in the hands of terrorist or extremist,,,,that theory seems way to James Bond / Mission Impossible but again in the categories of speculation and assumptions anything is possible. 

  My take - 1 of 2. 1. - Parts of the plane will eventually come to shore from the South China sea or the Indian Ocean or will be spotted in one of the two oceans but highly unlikely now. or 2. - the plane went down in the jungles of either Vietnam, Laos, or Cambodia and let me tell ya, a jet liner on the right path could easily be consumed by those jungles.

• SweetiePie 4,925 Posts

  Wed, Mar 19 2014 9:26 AM

  overtheedge:

  Assumptions and speculation is all we have now.

  For general consumption, this is true. What is in actual play is excellence in the art of the subterfuge, well planned over time and executed at the perfect time. The plane is safe and being prepared for the next mission; target Israel or USA. 911 will appear as childs play in terms of what is next. Possibility? No. Probability? Yes.

• alanti 10,564 Posts

  Wed, Mar 19 2014 10:24 PM

  Well it looks like they may have found the jet off the coast of WA. First possible real signs off finding the debris. 

   

• overtheedge 5,885 Posts

  Thu, Mar 20 2014 3:25 AM

  SweetiePie:

  The plane is safe and being prepared for the next mission; target Israel or USA. 911 will appear as childs play in terms of what is next. Possibility? No. Probability? Yes.

  ,,,LOL,,,, okay SP. But this would make for a GREAT movie.

  God Bless the souls of everyone on board. Heartfelt condolences to all the families and friends who lost loved ones in this tragic event.

• HWei 534 Posts

  Tue, Apr 1 2014 9:14 AM

  Update  may not be certain this just surface from a passenger 

  Flight 370 Passenger Philip Wood Allegedly Sends Message from U.S. Military Base in Indian Ocean : Freedom Outpost

  http://freedomoutpost.com/2014/03/flight-370-passenger-philip-wood-allegedly-sends-message-u-s-military-base-indian-ocean/#2qthp7QYPqFtHAB3.01

• Jimbog1964 8,378 Posts

  Tue, Apr 1 2014 9:25 AM

  Thanks for that.  My gosh you feel for all involved, but any hope has to be embraced of course.  Must be so awful...

• andwhy67 2,816 Posts

  Mon, Apr 7 2014 11:38 AM

  There's a new conspiracy theory going around about the disappearance of Malaysian Flight MH 370? It goes like this:

  
  
  When the American were withdrawing from the Afghanistan, one of their command and control systems (used for controlling the pilotless drones) was hijacked by the Taliban, while the American transport convoy was moving down from one of the hill-top bases. The Taliban ambushed the convoy and killed two American Seal personnel, seized the equipment/weapons, including the command and control system which weighed about 20 tons and packed into six crates. This supposedly happened in Feb 2014.
  
  What the Taliban wanted was money, by selling the system to the highest bidder. The Chinese were very eager for the technology. Just imagine if the Chinese could master the technology behind the US's command and control system, rendering the American drones useless! The Chinese sent a team of top defense scientists to check the system and then agreed to buy it from the Taliban.
  
  Sometime in early March 2014, the Chinese scientists and the six crates of equipment made their way to Malaysia, thinking that it was the best covert way to avoid detection. The cargo was then kept in the Chinese embassy under diplomatic protection.
  
  Meanwhile the Americans got the assistance of Israeli intelligence, and together they were determined to intercept and recapture the cargo.
  
  The Chinese calculated that it would be safe to transport it via civilian aircraft so as to avoid suspicion. After all the direct flight from KL to Beijing takes only 4 1/2 hours, and the American would not hijack or harm the civilians on board. So MH370 was the perfect carrier.
  
  There were five American and Israeli agents on board who were familiar with Boeing operation (the two "Iranians" with stolen passports could have been among them.
  
  When Flight MH370 was about to leave the Malaysian air space and reported to Vietnamese air control, an American AWAC jammed their signal, disabled the pilot control system and switched over to remote control mode. That was when the plane suddenly lost altitude momentarily.
  
  How could the AWAC can do it ? Remember 911 incident? After the 911 incident, all Boeing aircraft (and possibly all Airbus) are installed with a remote control system to counter terrorist hijacking. Since then all Boeings can be remote controlled by ground control tower. A similar remote control system is used to control the pilotless spy aircraft and drones.
  
  The five American/Israeli agents soon took over the plane, switched off the transponder and other communication systems, changed course and flew westwards. They did not fly east to Philippines or Guam because the whole South China Sea air space is covered by Chinese surveillance radar and satellites.
  
  The Malaysian, Thai and Indian military radars actually detected the unidentified aircraft but did not react.
  
  The plane flew over North Sumatra, Andamans, Indian ocean and then landed in the Maldives (some villagers saw the aircraft landing). It refuelled and continued to Garcia Deigo, the American air base in the middle of Indian Ocean. The cargo and the black box were removed. The passengers had been eliminated through oxygen starvation. The MH370 with the dead passengers were then flown (via remote control) and crashed into South Indian Ocean, making it look like the plane eventually ran out of fuel and crashed, and putting the suspicion on the captain and copilot.
  
  The Americans put up a good show, first diverting attention and search efforts in the South China Sea while the plane was on its way to the Indian Ocean. Then they came out with conflicting statements and evidence to confuse the world. The Australians were their accomplices.
  
  The amount of effort put up by China, in terms of the number of search aircraft, ships and satellites, searching first the South China Sea, then the Malacca Straits and the Indian Ocean is unprecedented. This indicates that China was very concerned, not because of the Chinese civilian passengers, but because of the high value cargo and its eight top defense scientists.
  
  Incredible? Perhaps we will find out in a future episode of Wikileaks

• EricJV 1,320 Posts

  Mon, Apr 7 2014 12:41 PM

  Interesting Andy. I have indeed heard this one before.

• JMalec 123 Posts

  Mon, Apr 7 2014 1:07 PM

  With all due respect to the missing and their families who are suffering an incredibly , I think a few people have been watching just a little too much 24. To me this sounds more like a script Joel Surnow, Brian Grazer and Brannon Braga would come up with Oliver Stone's input for the next installment of the Jack Bauer 24 franchise than reality. Sadly, with the state of general distrust in the world, I can also see far too many people believing this storyline in its entirety.

  My sympathies remain with those who have lost loved ones in this horrible incident. I also hope that one day the truth is discovered to end forever the endless sensationalism we have now.

• alanti 10,564 Posts

  Mon, Apr 7 2014 1:50 PM

  Andy, an interesting novel but not really possible.

  For a start, although the T7 is fly by wire, and as such controlled by computer systems, and the FMS cannot be changed without manual input. There is no evidence it can be "hacked" or the flight data altered remotely. Therefore one or both of the flight crew would have to be complicit in the scheme - no evidence at all.

  The flight data can be loaded prior to boarding, BUT will be checked upon loading the FMS. Such details could/would not be overlooked by any flight crew. Such wild variations in waypoints and FL's would be like noticing you are putting with your driver.

  The ACARS and transponder can only be turned off manually - so would need someone to physically to do this. Unless there is an electrical problem you would never turn off either - and for both systems to be turned off at the most opportune time is too big a coincidence.

  If these "agents" were involved the E&E bay would have been the target and the flight crew would have immediately squawked this.

  Entry into the cockpit is virtually impossible even if you have the code you have no chance of entry if the PIC denies entry.

  I hope like hell that the FDR (unlikely the CVR will be of any use) is found soon to stop these crazy theories.

  Sadly the outcome will not make a blockbuster novel or movie. At best it will be a jet catastrophic failure - like no other insofar as it flew another 7 hours, at worst (and most likely) it is another Egypt Air.