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Sat, Mar 8 2014 12:15 PM (20 replies)
  • YankeeJim
    25,827 Posts
    Sat, Mar 8 2014 7:18 AM

    stevereilly:
    However, why was the second thread deleted ?  Last time I checked, no posts were against guidelines.

    There is no real guideline for common sense and when you have lengthy posts saying the same thing over and over and people reacting to the redundancy it gets obnoxious. That thread turned into a paranoia-fest and threatened to go off the deep end despite Shoe's initial warning.

  • andyson
    6,415 Posts
    Sat, Mar 8 2014 7:22 AM

    stevereilly:
    a quick question, what is the record for the most delete thread?

    Hmmm....maybe it should be an award in member profiles?

  • slillico
    393 Posts
    Sat, Mar 8 2014 7:53 AM

    I agree, it's paranoia, I guess it would be the first time ever an encrypted server was hacked or copied onto a usb key or the information sold to a 3rd party.

    Whatever was I thinking, I stand corrected.

  • YankeeJim
    25,827 Posts
    Sat, Mar 8 2014 8:26 AM

    Paranoia can be replaced by prudence. Just checking one's stuff on a regular basis keeps things even. This is how I found out that I was one of those victims in that Target thing that went down over the holidays.

     I've been to Target once in the past 2 years and the one time I went all I did was buy something with my bank debit card-the same card I use all over. 2 weeks later I see 2 charges at a Home Depot 1000 miles away from me in another state for the exact same amount-$211.65. A Saturday call to the bank service center immediately voided the card and Monday following the charges were removed.

    Yes, it was a hassle doing without the card for a week but that's what checks are for. Guess what? I had to show my license to prove I was the check maker. All this over an innocuous purchase at a major retailer! FWIW, Target's probably the safest place to buy anything now. LOL

    Paranoia's destructive. Protection is easy, just keep the eyes open and be aware.

  • slillico
    393 Posts
    Sat, Mar 8 2014 9:01 AM

    YankeeJim:
    Paranoia's destructive. Protection is easy, just keep the eyes open and be aware.

    I was the victim 3 weeks ago of a debit hack, Cosco in Canada, within 3 hours i noticed the charges and called the bank, the bank had already cancelled the card, within 30 minutes I had a new card and within 2 days my money was returned. Canadian banks are pretty good when it comes to security.

    The target story is good also, lot's of lawsuits as well, seems if a company wishes to store this type of data, they better ensure it's security. It's also beyond me why any company, unless it was absolutely vital, would wish to open themselves to any kind of liability by keeping any sensitive information on file. Target will survive I'm sure.

    YankeeJim:
    Guess what? I had to show my license to prove I was the check maker.

    Are you suggesting "showing" your license is equivalent to "providing a duplicate copy" for the company to store in their database is equivalent. Because I would have to beg to differ there if you were.

    My eyes are obviously open, but the impression I'm getting I'm in the minority.

    Dare I suggest anything that would limit this companies liability, be cheaper for them to do, would protect their customers information, allow them to provide a more efficient service and gets more people verified. What possible use could come from getting more people verified and making the process safe and secure, other then requiring it. Wonder what that might prevent here. HMM Sorry I'm to stupid to figure that out, but all this get's me is a paranoid label.

    At this point, with the present process, even if I won a random to Scotland to play SA I would not take it, if it meant being verified with the present process. You can call it paranoid, I call it prudent protection.

  • YankeeJim
    25,827 Posts
    Sat, Mar 8 2014 9:19 AM

    slillico:
    Are you suggesting "showing" your license is equivalent to "providing a duplicate copy" for the company to store in their database is equivalent.

    Just as harmless. Who you gonna scare with a driver's license #? Plus, and this is what really seals it for me, who is going to bother fiddling around with a tiny target like WGT for information that is readily available from other, larger hacked sources like maybe the DMV? And then what do you get-an address from a license that probably shows your correct address along with physical proof it is in the form of a current utility bill.

    I wouldn't say you're in the minority, I'm sure there's a ton of people less educated than you that fear just opening the front door. The point is when you have the faculties to understand real risk, lobbying against something as innocuous as what WGT wants just fails. JMO.  

  • slillico
    393 Posts
    Sat, Mar 8 2014 9:26 AM

    Only 3 pieces of ID is required to completely steal an identity.

    No company is stupid enough, or never in a million years, would keep 3 pieces of anyone's identity on file in a database connected to a network.

    WGT is presently keeping, and is requesting 3 pieces, of peoples identity, and storing such in a database connected to network.

    ANDY? Will I get an award at 5?

  • Slammer23
    420 Posts
    Sat, Mar 8 2014 10:00 AM

    If you are in America (IDK about other countries, but I've actually done it here)  there is absolutely NO reason to give them a credit card. If you want to safely buy credits, go to a Subway, Burger King, or one of those places. Pay cash for a gift card and then come here and trade it for credits. Easy peasy.

  • borntobesting
    9,752 Posts
    Sat, Mar 8 2014 11:12 AM

    slillico:

    Only 3 pieces of ID is required to completely steal an identity.

    No company is stupid enough, or never in a million years, would keep 3 pieces of anyone's identity on file in a database connected to a network.

    WGT is presently keeping, and is requesting 3 pieces, of peoples identity, and storing such in a database connected to network.

    You are reading it wrong.They are only asking for 2 pieces.The drivers license/pass port means either or not both. 

  • slillico
    393 Posts
    Sat, Mar 8 2014 12:13 PM

    borntobesting:
    You are reading it wrong.They are only asking for 2 pieces.The drivers license/pass port means either or not both. 

    No I did not read it wrong, but sorry i was not clear, they already have 1 on most of us, the CC, then in addition, 2 more, 2 + 1 that = 3.

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