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Bracket Ideas (and a rake tangent)

Thu, Jun 5 2014 8:36 AM (26 replies)
  • BolloxInBruges
    1,389 Posts
    Mon, Apr 14 2014 1:01 PM

    First off thanks WGT for adding the brackets, nice addition to the game.   Sorry if some or all of these ideas have already been posted elsewhere.

    Thought of a few things while playing them. 

    1) Was thinking of a way to speed them up, how about when they reach 4 players, there is a "start early" button and if all 4 (or 2 if its down to that) agree to start early, once the 4th player hits the button the 24 hour timer begins.  This could cut down the time by a day or more to wrap it up.

    2) Pay out as soon as both players have finished the final round, rather than waiting for the timer to expire.  RGs do this in the rare instance that all 50 players do finish the round before the timer expires, they pay out instantly.

    3)  If you are going to hide a players score on the bracket until the opponent posts theirs, you should also hide it from the score history like you do with RGs. (scores hidden from history until 50 sign up)

    4)  Don't show who has signed up until all 16 spots are filled.  I personally would avoid joining a RG with a cast of all star players, which will make them fill more slowly of course.

     

    Unrelated note, since the rake is 10% in brackets which is spread over a number of rounds, why not lower the rake on RGs to a more reasonable 10% as well?  When RGs started in early 2010 the most expensive balls were something like 70 credits, so at that point the rake accounted for maybe half of WGT's take from a RGs when you factor in ball wear.    Now with balls costing nearly 10x as much obviously they are generating far more revenue from ball use that from the amount they rake.   I feel like more players might be inclined to play RGs if positions 11-15 also showed a small profit, as scores are getting to be ridiculously low.   And if more people feel as though they are "winning" credits they're going to be more likely to pull out their wallet for balls which is WGT's bread and butter. So lowering the rake may actually generate more revenue.

  • jsweetcr
    1,209 Posts
    Mon, Apr 14 2014 1:17 PM

    BolloxInBruges:
    4)  Don't show who has signed up until all 16 spots are filled.  I personally would avoid joining a RG with a cast of all star players, which will make them fill more slowly of course.

    Funny  I was just thinking this last night.  I have yet to enter one and that is only cuz I have a lot going on right now, but can't wait to. However I have been keeping an eye on them and it was my first thought.  I think the draw should either be randomly done once the 16 players sign up, or the names shouldn't be shown until the 16th sign up if they are just gonna fill the bracket up in order of sign up

    Interesting concept on the rake.  Love to see it, but don't have much faith that WGT will lower something that has been in place for so long

  • SPINO1
    5,394 Posts
    Mon, Apr 14 2014 1:53 PM

    jsweetcr:
    I think the draw should either be randomly done once the 16 players sign up

    This is the best soloution , i think

  • Steve2golf
    930 Posts
    Mon, Apr 14 2014 3:26 PM

    BolloxInBruges:

    1) Was thinking of a way to speed them up, how about when they reach 4 players, there is a "start early" button and if all 4 (or 2 if its down to that) agree to start early, once the 4th player hits the button the 24 hour timer begins.  This could cut down the time by a day or more to wrap it up.

    2) Pay out as soon as both players have finished the final round, rather than waiting for the timer to expire.  RGs do this in the rare instance that all 50 players do finish the round before the timer expires, they pay out instantly.

    3)  If you are going to hide a players score on the bracket until the opponent posts theirs, you should also hide it from the score history like you do with RGs. (scores hidden from history until 50 sign up)

    4)  Don't show who has signed up until all 16 spots are filled.  I personally would avoid joining a RG with a cast of all star players, which will make them fill more slowly of course.

    1. How about just letting us play them all right through if we wish, as soon as the round is played by everyone the next round timer starts and if everyone finishes early the next one starts, and give us the option of playing right till the end if we wish.

    2. No brainer absolutely correct.

    3. See 2.

    4. I thought this as well, but the more I thought about it and played it, i like the idea of watching, waiting and getting in at the right spot, part of the stategy to make the ultimate goal of placing in the credits, for us mere mortals.

    Now for mine:

    5. 18 holoes is a slog, but I'm sure they will soon realise the 9 holes are more popular.

    6. The conditions should be the same, and if not, we should no which is which and where, presently we only know the first round conditions and they run the gammot for the 4 rounds.

    7. Obviously these are going to go teir based, Legend and TL should go together, TL stuff takes to long to fill, and since many of the winning Legends are just re-started TL, tough on them.

  • Steve2golf
    930 Posts
    Mon, Apr 14 2014 5:46 PM
    I'm moderated and cannot completely recall what I said 6 hours ago and cannot edit as it's not up yet, but i just went to enter 1 and low and behold, the 500 credit 1 a VG TL in #2 spot, and the 200 9H, theres another VG TL in the #1 spot. Did I enter, nope. So WGT will have to do something, otherwise these will become a ghost town.
  • lvietri
    3,326 Posts
    Mon, Apr 14 2014 6:04 PM

    I also think anyone who's WGT name starts with the letter L should get a 2 stroke handicap in a 9 hole match .. and a 4 stroke handicap in an 18 hole match.   

  • jsweetcr
    1,209 Posts
    Mon, Apr 14 2014 6:22 PM

    lvietri:

    I also think anyone who's WGT name starts with the letter L should get a 2 stroke handicap in a 9 hole match .. and a 4 stroke handicap in an 18 hole match.   

    Not sure how that would help you. Your name starts with a capital "i".

    LMAO!!!

  • lvietri
    3,326 Posts
    Mon, Apr 14 2014 7:07 PM

    jsweetcr:

    lvietri:

    I also think anyone who's WGT name starts with the letter L should get a 2 stroke handicap in a 9 hole match .. and a 4 stroke handicap in an 18 hole match.   

    Not sure how that would help you. Your name starts with a capital "i".

    LMAO!!!

    Or a capital " i " ... :)

     

  • HDBanger
    348 Posts
    Thu, Apr 17 2014 2:28 AM

    I like all the ideas, except hiding players signed up. For those of us that are Tour Legend in name only, it is nice knowing I have a chance. If I see anyone with an average of 56 or lower entered on the side I would be placed, of course I am going to decline, what chance do I have? If I could not see who was entered, I would just pass on them altogether like I have the RG's. 

  • WGTicon
    12,511 Posts
    Thu, Apr 17 2014 2:29 PM

    Good thread guys, keep it going:)

    -WGTicon

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