This was my 1st iron upgrade and I'm using them now.
I was big on starter ball usage for a long time so I chose these for those reasons. There is a starter ball game on my blog at the bottom which I recorded. But these 85s are not bad w/ the right ball IMO in regards to meter and spin.
Like many, I haven't got the hang of the distances, mostly w/ the PW out of the rough/sand.
My biggest hangup w/ these is the forgiveness w/ says '3' but missing the ding on these can be a problem for me. Using a slower meter ball may help but I can see the level 97s will be my next choice very soon.