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R1 vs L96 Bertha driver

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Sat, Aug 9 2014 5:36 PM (30 replies)
  • alberich35
    858 Posts
    Sat, Aug 9 2014 2:18 AM

    SweetiePie:

    alberich35:

    Just to see, i just did STA 18 holes no wind, with my SLDR & GI3-d balls (distance 1 dot)

    . Avg 302.9, longest 322. (100% fairway)

    With better balls, differences would be not so much.

     

    It is true. The SLDR is superb. With the long balls, it will only be slightly outdriven by a 287 ....about 3 yards lol 

    usualy yes, but to be honnest seen some holes where R1 or BB do wonders, thinking for instance Bethpage #1 with tailwind it's not 3 yrds you get  but about 50 or 60 by overfly the trees. Shot you cannot do with SLDR 

    Or STA #17 where sometime with strong headwind i cant reach the fair way with the balls i use and can pay. 

  • MichaelStroke
    2,066 Posts
    Sat, Aug 9 2014 1:32 PM

    The R1 seems better on every account, but since the difference between 96 and 98 for me is many, many months I'll probably end up with the Bertha when I hit 96 in...oh, 20 years.

    As much as I love the SLDR's forgiveness, eventually you need something with more oomph.

  • JFidanza
    1,676 Posts
    Sat, Aug 9 2014 1:47 PM

    Given that clubs perform different for different players, I had to test out the R1 (not the black) vs the BB and usually I'm getting longer drives w/ the BB but I still switch back and forth.

    The tail wind might help w/ a higher traj. w/ the BB, or work against it , etc.

    I might have more stopping options (less roll out w/ BS) w/ the BB, and although it has the same meter speed, it seems I may be better at dinging the R1. (inconclusive) 

     

    bhoese tests were said to be not very extensive ('warrants further investigation.') but I applaud the effort.

    Tests of 5 drivers under identical conditions:

    http://www.wgt.com/forums/p/195080/1753114.aspx#1753114

    "The Big Bertha 9.0 produced an incredibly tight grouping... when I took a few more swings "off the record" the third went 318-338, the longest shot of the night. " ~ bhoese 

     

    edit: again, this is bhoese work, and I love all the other charts at the thread.

    SP, I don't think  IMHO you'd require the R1 at all, but with WGT sometimes the 'newest' driver performs better just because you made the purchase. (again, speculation, IMO)

    I like the method of 'noton..' where you try putters/clubs on a rental period. Methinks the performance of a club during rental would tend toward more accurate. (inconclusive)

  • YankeeJim
    25,827 Posts
    Sat, Aug 9 2014 2:32 PM

    JFidanza:
    I might have more stopping options (less roll out w/ BS) w/ the BB, and although it has the same meter speed, it seems I may be better at dinging the R1.

    Nice effort on that chart, lot of work there.

    Something that usually gets overlooked about drives is what happens when you play the wind instead of the ding. In that wind an early hit with proper aim adds quite a lot to the drive.The R1 with fbs on a 33 Callaway will consistently carry 320+ in that scenario.

    And that's without a glitch.  ;-)

  • SweetiePie
    4,925 Posts
    Sat, Aug 9 2014 2:42 PM

    MichaelStroke:

    As much as I love the SLDR's forgiveness, eventually you need something with more oomph.

    The SLDR was the best driver I ever used. Just a pleasure to use. At L-96, I moved to Bertha, but kept the SLDR for safety. The Bertha is completely as splendid as the SLDR  and, as expected, had the "oomph" you seek. It is wonderful. Amazing. I hit L-98 just yesterday, and expect to go ahead and buy the 98 R1...but I'm in no way 'jonezin' for it...at all. ~ SP ~

  • MichaelStroke
    2,066 Posts
    Sat, Aug 9 2014 3:28 PM

    SweetiePie:

    MichaelStroke:

    As much as I love the SLDR's forgiveness, eventually you need something with more oomph.

     

    The SLDR was the best driver I ever used. Just a pleasure to use. At L-96, I moved to Bertha, but kept the SLDR for safety. The Bertha is completely as splendid as the SLDR  and, as expected, had the "oomph" you seek. It is wonderful. Amazing. I hit L-98 just yesterday, and expect to go ahead and buy the 98 R1...but I'm in no way 'jonezin' for it...at all. ~ SP ~

    So the BB is a seamless transition?  That's all I really want.  I've been driving like a 12 year old girl for so long that I can't really get caught up in the "I get 318 instead of 315" argument.  I just want something that can help me get an eagle putt here and there.  I can't play BoP5 matches because there isn't a one of them I can reach green in 2 without a freakin' tornado behind me.  If Bertha fixes that, I'm sold.

  • JAMESBALDINI
    266 Posts
    Sat, Aug 9 2014 4:22 PM

    R1 is the best

    james

  • alberich35
    858 Posts
    Sat, Aug 9 2014 4:52 PM

    Are we really  talking about virtuals drivers ?

    When i reed "i love this driver " I pinch myself to see if I'm awake or dreaming ^^

  • SweetiePie
    4,925 Posts
    Sat, Aug 9 2014 5:36 PM

    MichaelStroke:
    So the BB is a seamless transition?  That's all I really want.

    Seamless. Except that you forget entirely about the SLDR the very second you sell it to "guickly & greedily" receive a 75% beating...with pleasure 

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