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A special help request from all tiers.

• DaddysKat 3,554 Posts

  Wed, Jun 18 2014 5:04 PM

  Hi everyone,

  I am currently trying to compile scores from our members based on their tier.  What I would like to do with this information is compile the scores shot from our members and come up with slope ratings on our courses so I can fine-tune a handicap system I am currently working on.

  In a previous thread I just posted, I asked our tour legends to provide me with scores they shoot from the various tee boxes so I can compile a set of course ratings for each course. 

  I'm now asking everyone what scores they shoot when playing the various courses.  Here's the information I would like to obtain ...

  Your tier, the course played, the tee box you played from, the game settings (if you played a ranked round, just specify "ranked"), the game mode (Front 9, Back 9 or Full 18) and your score.

  From this data, I will compile a list of stroke ratings that will further improve my handicap system.  I will share this information along with the course ratings with everyone on the community.

  The more scores I receive, the more accurate the averages will be.  I hope I can count on you.

  Thanks for your help with this!

  Kat ♥

• Nutvara 20 Posts

  Wed, Jun 18 2014 8:56 PM

  Hi Kat,

  The last 3 times i played "Wk 25 9-Hole Bethpage F9"  as a Pro. It's ranked and my scores have been 37, 36 and 31. I think it's played from red tee.

  I also played some brackets, mostly 9 holes on Bethpage or Kanua. They all ranked and I think they all played from red tee. All scores have been between 33 and 38.

  Hope you'll have a little help from this.

  Good luck // Nutvara

• DaddysKat 3,554 Posts

  Thu, Jun 19 2014 12:42 PM

  Thanks for your scores, Nutvara.

  What I'm actually looking for is scores from tee boxes you usually wouldn't play in a tourney ... example, as a Pro, you're usually playing from the White tees.  What I would love to get are scores you would get if you played from the Blue tees and the Black tees.  There are some courses I wouldn't suggest you attempt the more difficult tees, since you can lose golf balls in this game, even in practice mode.

• BigInigoMontoya 208 Posts

  Fri, Jun 20 2014 10:46 AM

  A brief glimpse at my score history reveals the following:

  • U.S. Open week event 70
  • U.S. Open week event 70
  • U.S. Open week event 70
  • U.S. Open qualifier 76
  • U.S. Open qualifier 74
  • U.S. Open qualifier 66 (**** yeah!!!!!   Under par LOL)
  • U.S. Open qualifier 78
  • U.S. Open qualifier 79

  I believe that each of these events were played from the championship tees/legend tees. Probably not enough data points to be considered statistically significant, but better than no data at all I suppose.  My normal tee box is from the Master tees, so playing from the tips was quite a new experience for me.  Pinehurst is a bit of an odd duck however, in that even from the legend tees, the only truly difficult holes (IMHO) are 4, 16, and if you have a poor up and down game, 2.    

• DaddysKat 3,554 Posts

  Fri, Jun 20 2014 12:10 PM

  Thanks for this BIM!  It will come in handy when I work on slope ratings..

• raycin1019 377 Posts

  Fri, Jun 20 2014 12:59 PM

  I am a Legend.  All my plays are ranked, all are for 9 holes, all are played from the back tees

  bpb            35      F

  cong          31      B

  bpb              32    B

  kia                32      F

  MER            31       B

  OLY              32     F

  BPB              32     F

  KIA                34      B

  KIA                32     F

  MER              32    B

  OLY                30       F

  STA                32       B

  OAK               34       B

  STA                31       F

   

  This is the last week or so.  if you want more, let me know

   

• oneeyedjohn 9,589 Posts

  Fri, Jun 20 2014 1:50 PM

  Kat, all american courses and I imagine the UK ones too have a slope rating assigned to them by the USGA. Can u not just use that which is already in place.

  For example the slope rating for Pinehurst #2 is 141, which is on the difficult side  of average.

  The slope rating is based on the course and tee boxes, and has nothing to do with players scores.

  Forgive me if I am barking up the wrong tree.

  O    N    E    Y    E

• DaddysKat 3,554 Posts

  Fri, Jun 20 2014 2:21 PM

  Hi Oneeye,

  Yeah ... I'm aware that the USGA maintains a slope rating.  It's also known as the "bogey rating".  And while I can use the USGA slope ratings and course ratings, the scores in this game do not compare to the scores IRL ... so the bogey rating and course ratings(or pro ratings) from the USGA can't really apply here.  While the formula can be used to determine differentials and player handicaps, you really can't just use the numbers supplied from the USGA for the courses with this game.

  Let me give you an example on course ratings ... The USGA has a course rating on KIA back tees of 77.3.  Our current tour legend average on Kia is 60.4.  And Olympic Lakes course  has a course rating of 73.9 ... but our tour legends average 60.3 on this course.

  So, it makes sense that if one adjust the course rating (or scratch rating), one also needs to adjust the slope rating.

  I really do wish it were that easy, John.  It sure would make this endeavor a lot easier.

• oneeyedjohn 9,589 Posts

  Fri, Jun 20 2014 4:24 PM

  I take your point Kat, I was being short-sighted,lol

• MBaggese 15,378 Posts

  Fri, Jun 20 2014 5:20 PM

  Hey Kat, feel free to cruise through my score history, I think the only "non-tips" round I have played lately, was in the Womens PH Open Event, but I have no idea what tees they are from.