row2seat2:
Would not perfection be boring? Why do we play this little online game? Its because its a challenge, I too have had the lip outs but I also know it happens in RL where the greens change form hour to hour , why not on WGT?
I agree to a point, but that isn't the point! When you hit the perfect speed and its middle right of the hole, it shouldn't lip out. This isnt real golf and this wouldnt even happen in real golf. When you play well and hit good shots you should be rewarded, not penalized. I realize sometimes in real life you can hit a perfect shot and get unlucky... For example, tigers shot on the par 5 14th at augusta when he hit the pin and rolled into water at the last years masters, but that stuff doesn't happen nearly as much as it does in this game. Perfection should be hard to achieve, but when you do play at this level you should be rewarded and it's certainly not boring. But wgt has decided this is not the approach they wanted to take. Instead of making this more difficult, ie minimizing performance of clubs, fine tuning UEL so it can be used in more regular play, or increasing green speeds. Theyve decided to add VEM, and this new hole physics which is neither realistic nor enjoyable. People will shoot these scores anyway, but one needs some luck on their side to shoot the way they can. So ultimately sometimes "skill" becomes somewhat irrelevent for those last couple strokes.
I was just penalized again last night. I likely put together the best game after 4 years on here. I played the First Tee Championship. I went eagle on #4 and 6, I should have had a 24 on front but got one of these ridiculous lipouts on #8 par 3. I was birdying everything on the back and then got another ridiculous lipout on #15 par 3 that was dead right middle of the cup. It rimmed all the way around the cup(360). And finished the back with a 27. So a 52 really should have been a 50. If they don't want these scores, they shouldnt have put out this equipment.They obviously realized their mistake and have been trying to right it. Implementing this vem and hole physics bullcrap was not the right direction. It's just an annoyance. It makes the game less fun. FAR from making this game more realistic, but that's what they were trying for. At least they tried, albeit a lousy attempt.
AB