True, I was just saying what happens on my best days. My distance to pin stats are much worse than my reality, because I play alot of uneven lies, in which getting it anywhere on the green is a happy day. The starter is accurate enough to do that from 6 feet, so if I'm getting them close, then I have been able to do that. The Rossa seems more accurate for long straight putts, but is ridiculously worse for me when i am playing any significant break. Wontanamo, the miss the ding king, advised me that it took him a good year to adjust from the starter to the Rossa. A year??! I've been trying to stick with it for a month, and its driving me nuts. The idea is a good one, make a premium putter with precision but that has 1 forgiveness instead of 2...what is so bad about that? And if it saves me relearning a putter for a year, I, and others, will surely buy it. There are like 50 completely worthless putters for sale...people all buy the same good ones. What would it take to make 51, that would help all the miss the ding putters, of which I'm guessing there are alot. Not much. thanks for your input though, its appreciated.