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• DAZZA501 5,972 Posts

  Sun, Sep 14 2014 5:59 AM

  courteneyfish:

  that meter problems are mostly at your end.

  courteneyfish:

  Well it's true.

  Mostly

   

  I never get meter problems until putting (no i haven't got the putting grid turned on)

  This started when wgt did some maintenance to improve the meter on low end computers. Well i really hope it worked because it's completely screwed mine.

  I've now changed to a miss ding putter instead of the ding putter i've tried to be for the last 4 years in the hope i might hole a few. Well i do hole a few but nowhere near what used to hole. I would say it costs me 2 strokes over 9 holes which is the difference between winning & losing.

• bobby58lucas 163 Posts

  Sun, Sep 14 2014 6:01 AM

  Thanks for all the replies to my post chaps. Believe me i have tried playing closing everything down, But not being really technical maybe i need to look at other avenues.

  Would just like to reply to courtney's point about my stats and not going there. 

  I consider myself a good average legend player. My best score over 18 holes is 11 under par ( hit twice )my best score over 9 holes is 7 under par ( hit once ),  Now if i am guessing correctly most good average legends can and probably have hit those kind of scores once or twice so where my stats come into play in this discussion i do not know. Maybe you can explain Courtney ? 

• terwyl1 1,011 Posts

  Sun, Sep 14 2014 8:07 AM

  Hi Bobby.

  I have only hit sub 60 once and sub 30 three times, not dissimilar to you ( i have however hit 60, 61 about 5-7 times). However I do not think that I am typical of the better Legends. It frustrates the hell out of me because these guys regularly go sub 30 with the same standard of clubs as me. I think that I will improve score when I have the clubs that being at Level 97 affords.

  However I am not sure where the major difference is, is it the reading of putts, or just that these guys somehow put their approaches mostly within 6 feet? 

  Or is there indeed a more scientific reason revolving around dealing with browsers etc. etc.?

  Regards

   

  Terry

   

• alosso 21,073 Posts

  Sun, Sep 14 2014 10:06 AM

  terwyl1:

  However I am not sure where the major difference is, is it the reading of putts, or just that these guys somehow put their approaches mostly within 6 feet? 

  Both IMHO, 25 / 75 %.

  According to many contributions of the best players, the best tactics for one-putts is to stop the ball close, next to that you must have a Plan B - hole the difficult ones. #3 might be skills in saves.

• Jimbog1964 8,378 Posts

  Sun, Sep 14 2014 10:40 AM

  terwyl1:

  frustrates the hell out of me because these guys regularly go sub 30 with the same standard of clubs as me

  terwyl1:

  However I am not sure where the major difference is, is it the reading of putts, or just that these guys somehow put their approaches mostly within 6 feet? 

  First what do yo think is stopping you achieving a better distance to the pin?

  terwyl1:

  I think that I will improve score when I have the clubs that being at Level 97 affords.

  Honestly lines will be very fine, no revelation awaits.

  I notice you are are using a top end Nike ball. Very fine lines indeed on spin settings for distance control with that thing.  Are you sure say a slow mo Cally L34 might not suit you more as it stands.  

  If it's just distance defeating you the L97 irons will only be even more fussy with that ball.  What you can do though is map your irons very thoroughly if you have not.  Very good distance is very much within the range of the irons you have.  Putting will always be the greatest final decider, but getting to within 12 feet is going to yield more putts that from 15 feet  (obviously).

  Wedges also need careful mapping, and any HL wedge should be wedge + tap in putt from 5 through 107 yards (more with the PW in play for it's full capability).

  Wind affect / elevation also needs to be very fully understood too - as you are v probably aware.  

• DodgyPutter 4,690 Posts

  Sun, Sep 14 2014 10:40 AM

  bobby58lucas:

  Thanks for all the replies to my post chaps. Believe me i have tried playing closing everything down, But not being really technical maybe i need to look at other avenues.

  I am not at all technical and had similar problems recently.  cbbcrazy told me "Right click on screen in game client mode,  make sure you are allowing at least 10mb  of storage for adobe flash."  I didn't have near 10mb and this sorted it out. Probably not this with you but maybe worth a quick look.

• JFidanza 1,676 Posts

  Mon, Sep 15 2014 10:15 AM

  alosso:

  If it's not technical issues with meter / connection / CPU load ..., it may also be VEM. This feature is designed to make the game harder when you are good at it. 

  This is basically what I also observed, and like a few others, I had made a post about 'a group of friends' and meter personalities, etc. Some confused it w/ CPU/connection load etc.

  (BTW I know CPU load on my end, when I stream I play at 100%, fairly well, sometimes)

  But from what I read from the VEM programming, when it's not helping you sink a putt you screwed up, it may -

  "change variables representing distribution curves, thresholds, sweet spot..... the [graphical] representation can be modified to provide an indication of such to the user. "

  So, what I'm reading is that the shot may be affected then the meter changed, so then you say 'Oh, a dinged pitch would have went in' but the VEM changed the sweet spot and thus changed the meter, say, to post-ding to indicate. This is where you can learn what works from observation.

  But then the forums are full of people who cry 'FIX THE METER' when in many cases, the meter is fine! The VEM changed a variable and modified the [graphical] representation  to provide an indication of such to the user.

  Now, I think WGT might have recently adjusted the latter part above so no meter is changed but THE SHOT variables still are, and now people are saying "Why does my dinged shot veer off course, what are the circles of precision, the VEM is cranked up or broken, the clubs stink, the wind is wrong?"  etc. etc. etc. on and on.

  (but now there will be less complaining about the meter! LOL)

  So, perhaps you will see a great ding go WTF. Maybe a great putt of mine roll over the hole or J curve on a flat green, stop short etc. and the meter will no longer be modified while the shot was. 

  I partly adopt alosso concern, wisdom yet with understanding that that game is as is, and a lot of times IT AIN'T BROKE. I'll try to advance my goals but I see the game mostly sets the pace, applies the kibosh, and generally regulates the speed of progress. I can't speak for others.

  We understand that 'WGT is a business', yes, but along with that, it's a complex game with the allure of challenge. 

  "The game lends itself to fantasies about our abilities." - Peter Alliss

• terwyl1 1,011 Posts

  Mon, Sep 15 2014 2:40 PM

  Hi there thanks for you input. I am trying what you say and like the feel of the L34.

  However can you tell me does it normally need a 4yds reduction in swing to get same distance as Niki balls? Generally they are quite similar but tonight my shots are miles longer, or is it one of WGT idiocyncrecies?

   

  Thanks

   

  Terry 

• Jimbog1964 8,378 Posts

  Mon, Sep 15 2014 5:07 PM

  terwyl1:

  like the feel of the L34

  terwyl1:

  However can you tell me does it normally need a 4yds reduction in swing to get same distance as Niki balls?

  You are playing way less spin, and so less air time braking than the ferocity of that offered by the Nikes.   Even the L61 Nike will go farther than the L90 7 iron FBS for for example (even more so the higher the clubs spinning capability etc).

  L34 Callys are very consistent.

  Not being funny it's still congrats and welcome to the tips.  It is a fair adjustment indeed, and IMHO you will settle in way better this route.  Once you master the tips 1. please let me know your tips :), and 2. think maybe FBS with a L90 Nike might gain you an extra bit of stopping power sometimes at a par 5 maybe look again.  The L34 Cally is a fine ball and I sometimes wonder why i use more, but ...............Anyway that Cally will play very well for you after you stop comparing it to what the Nike did so much though.  Go with it and map your new ball, and enjoy the game with what it does.  The L34 is a lot less fussy with exact per pixel spin needed per shot per exact wind etc etc.  Still a deadly scoring ball, just not quite as fussy per pixel of spin especially with exact wind in mind to the enth...

  This is exactly why swapping balls too often is bad as it gets very confusing at the best of times, but IMHO a great fix for this stage of your journey and well beyond (many fine players play great with the L33 Cally etc)...Rambled a bit but you get the picture.

• JFidanza 1,676 Posts

  Mon, Sep 15 2014 6:11 PM

  terwyl1:

  Hi there thanks for you input. I am trying what you say and like the feel of the L34.

   

   

  I have had great games matching the Cally 34s with the Nike 85 irons. I might end up getting them again.

  GL