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  • TaterNater
    545 Posts
    Wed, Oct 20 2010 5:30 PM

    wow andy nice find hard to argue against that...............

  • Mem11
    199 Posts
    Wed, Oct 20 2010 6:07 PM

    CharlemagneRH:
    CTTH = luck.  Ninety feet is hard to get, but not impossible.  Some of the really low scores, like 60 ft and below, are just pure luck.

    I wouldn't call it all luck...  There is skill involved, as SP says, doing the same shots over and over until you can almost do them with your eyes closed makes low scores very doable.

    What most see is that not many of the best players play the weekly & monthly CTTH's.  Take a look at those CTTH tourneys where the prizes are worth something of value and see who ends up at the top...

    KLM Open

    LPGA Virtual Tour - October Open

  • gobbog
    150 Posts
    Wed, Oct 20 2010 6:54 PM

    Roaul:

    I want to say this: It is Impossible to shoot a 30, for example on a 9 Hole CTTH! The only way you can do that, is to Ding every Shot and that is mere Impossible without a Hack Program!

    I would love to see this Cheating Ding Program Killed! This is a Gentlemen's Game and honest Game and it's being %*&&tiny_mce_markeramp;#%%*&* up by Cheaters.

    WGT DO SOMETHING!!!!!!!!

     

     

    I don't think there's anything WGT can do, they say they can detect if someone is cheating using a program. But I seriously doubt it. WGT's policy is "ignore the cheating problem and they'll forget about it" which seems to be working. There was an uproar a couple of months back when a "top rank" player was caught using a program, but he was only caught do to his own stupidity, posting a screen shot with the program running in the Windows toolbar. I'm pretty sure WGT has no idea who's cheating.

  • CharlemagneRH
    1,054 Posts
    Wed, Oct 20 2010 7:45 PM

    Mem11:

    CharlemagneRH:
    CTTH = luck.  Ninety feet is hard to get, but not impossible.  Some of the really low scores, like 60 ft and below, are just pure luck.

    I wouldn't call it all luck...  There is skill involved, as SP says, doing the same shots over and over until you can almost do them with your eyes closed makes low scores very doable.

    What most see is that not many of the best players play the weekly & monthly CTTH's.  Take a look at those CTTH tourneys where the prizes are worth something of value and see who ends up at the top...

    KLM Open

    LPGA Virtual Tour - October Open

    I can't explain Bolly's dominance in stroke play competitions since he seems to be able to win almost anything.  My average since late-September has been significantly better than his, but I still fully believe that he is the better player.  He somehow finds a way to win, and I don't know how he does it.  He is definitely not a 63-AVG player.  I'm a 60-AVG player, and he is undoubtedly better than I am.

    As far as the CTTH competitions go, I know he does those repeatedly... over and over, dozens and dozens of times.  He doesn't win them the 1st-10th time he plays them... I've seen him do a single CTTH competition like 100 times.  I don't play CTTH very often, so I have no idea what is possible.  Maybe some CTTH courses are easier than others, but I think the best I've scored on a CTTH is ~80.  He might get good finishes in of CTTH competitions, but we're not talking about single-play tournaments.  He plays them over and over again, and he's one of only a few of the elite players that really does that.   I didn't see anyone else try the Celtic Manor CTTH Challenge, but I saw him do it ~100 times.  His excellence there is due in part to his skill, but also in part to the effort he puts in.  How someone can consistently win single-play stroke tournaments, though, I have no idea.

    That said, I don't care to complain about how good he is, but I don't like it when a single person seems to be the only one that can win any prize that is actually worth something.  All I'd like to get out of WGT is a new set of golf clubs.  I have no plans to attempt to win a dozen vacations to go golfing or watch PGA (or LPGA) Tour events.

    As far as andyson's post goes, I haven't played that CTTH before.  Is it easier than the others?  If not, I can't explain how someone could produce sub-60 scores consistently.

  • Mem11
    199 Posts
    Wed, Oct 20 2010 8:35 PM

    CharlemagneRH:
    As far as the CTTH competitions go, I know he does those repeatedly... over and over, dozens and dozens of times.

    Anyone that plays CTTH does that, like stroke play there is some luck involved.  If you don't get the right wind or vemmie rears it's ugly head, it can ruin a round. You only have 9 shots, so you need to be on target every time.  Persistence does pay off...

    Hey anyone that can Par #17 @ St Andrews with a 30 MPH wind in their face from the Championship tees, is pretty damn lucky in my book - it's something I'll never accomplish, but give me the right wind & I got a better than even chance of it.

    CharlemagneRH:
    He plays them over and over again, and he's one of only a few of the elite players that really does that.

    I don't know, check the top 25 in the KLM Open again - lots of familiar names that you don't see in the monthly and weekly CTTH tourney's.  The valuable prizes attract the better players and they usually do very well, so there's gotta be some skill involved.

    CharlemagneRH:
    As far as andyson's post goes, I haven't played that CTTH before.  Is it easier than the others?  If not, I can't explain how someone could produce sub-60 scores consistently.

    I wouldn't say it's easier many, including myself, have shot in the 50's, my lowest on any course is around a 45 - a 38 is extraordinary. 

    As Andyson said, it appears this person has been given a timeout, probably permanently.  What I find interesting is, if he in fact did attain this score fraudulently, why did WGT pay him his "winnings", which they have done before when cheaters have been caught...  Seriously, It's really not sour grapes since I came in 2nd in the tourney he shot the 38.... ;-)

  • andyson
    6,415 Posts
    Wed, Oct 20 2010 9:31 PM

    CharlemagneRH:
    As far as andyson's post goes, I haven't played that CTTH before.  Is it easier than the others?  If not, I can't explain how someone could produce sub-60 scores consistently.

    erm...look more closely at the list.  Sub 60 scores on 8 different CTTH competitions on 7 different courses.  I don't think luck had anything to do with those scores.

  • CharlemagneRH
    1,054 Posts
    Wed, Oct 20 2010 10:00 PM

    andyson:

    CharlemagneRH:
    As far as andyson's post goes, I haven't played that CTTH before.  Is it easier than the others?  If not, I can't explain how someone could produce sub-60 scores consistently.

    erm...look more closely at the list.  Sub 60 scores on 8 different CTTH competitions on 7 different courses.  I don't think luck had anything to do with those scores.

    Didn't really count how many there were.  I haven't ever been able to score like that in CTTH's, so even though I might not have ever played some of those CTTH's, I have to admit that it should be impossible to score like that.

    Seeing as how I honestly don't believe WGT is stupid enough to store deviation values client-side, where they can be manipulated, I can't explain it.  On the very offchance that WGT does store that client-side, that is something that needs to be fixed ASAP.

  • CharlemagneRH
    1,054 Posts
    Thu, Oct 21 2010 12:53 AM

    Funny stuff.  I just clicked 1/4 of an inch early on a putt, but it gave me a ding.  There is literally no way that that was a ding, but it gave me one... lol!

  • BriRock
    148 Posts
    Thu, Oct 21 2010 5:33 AM

    WOW...thats crazy good...any chance that's a programmer playing as a player?? Not sure how they test this game to find bugs and other things... but that's rediculous... Forget about the sub 60's....how about the fact that every single score there except for two of them are sub 90...not one shot missed...come on...when was the last time anyone played a ctth and didn't miss a shot bad for 40 plus rounds in a row????  i don't think its cheating...but i do think its fishy...

  • ncviz
    527 Posts
    Thu, Oct 21 2010 6:07 AM

    Always amazes me how someone can be so sure of something, yet be so ignorant on the subject.

    These are UNLIMITED play. With a little practice you can get so very good scores. How bout stop accusing and/or assuming things and try these for yourselves for more than just 2-3 hours!

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