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Mon, Sep 29 2014 2:43 PM (2 replies)
  • sportsmadwilly
    49 Posts
    Mon, Sep 29 2014 5:55 AM

    Hello, I have a problem with the "handicap" system. I pay challenge on match play and also play stroke play. Now I have literally put hundreds of scores in, yet I get penalized for lack of a better word when I win a game, this happens instantly as in right away, yet when I put a couple of not so good scores through nothing happens? please tell me how this is possible and how it can be fixed.

  • ApexPC
    3,164 Posts
    Mon, Sep 29 2014 12:14 PM

    Yo!

    It is not broken, so it can't be fixed.

    Match Play games cannot directly effect a stroke average, because players can concede putts, pick up their ball when they have no chance to tie, and can end the game before a full round has been played. In real golf Match Play results does not alter a players handicap or stroke average.

    So for Match Play games WGT adjusts player stroke averages using an unpublishedformula:

    WGTadmin:

    We use an algorithm to determine when a player is eligible to move to a new tier, which takes into account a number of factors including number of ranked games played.  These numbers scale by tier, so it's necessary to shoot a lower average to advance and to play more games to reach higher tiers.  For example, when you reach Tour Master, you will need to play a larger number of ranked rounds than you had as a Master, maintaining a low average, to tier up to Legend.
     

    Additionally, in response to WGT player feedback about sandbagging (misrepresenting one's true ability to gain advantage by playing at a lower tier from closer tee boxes), WGT is using more than just ranked stroke play scores to determine each player's average score and appropriate tier ranking.


    For obvious reasons, WGT is not sharing exact details of these changes, but they include factoring in scores from players who perform well in tournaments and challenge games for credits. We still encourage the community's feedback on Sandbagging, but believe this is an important step to reducing the practice and keeping the game fair.


    Finally, most of our top players have posted close estimates for players to try to gauge their progress in advancing tiers. Here is a good thread to read:

    http://www.wgt.com/forums/p/9085/707139.aspx#707139

     

  • alosso
    21,092 Posts
    Mon, Sep 29 2014 2:43 PM

    sportsmadwilly:
    yet when I put a couple of not so good scores through nothing happens?
    Yep!

    The basic thing is a non-linear average of your xyz best scores in the current tier, once you exceed the minimum number it will only drop, never rise before the next promotion.

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