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• MainzMan 9,591 Posts

  Fri, Oct 3 2014 2:38 PM

  BigInigoMontoya:

  Can those Nikes stay below the hole on the 9th @ Oakmont or the 15th @ Bethpage Black?

  Oooh, tough call on Oakmont, I assume you mean the front right pin.  With higher level balls, I'd say they  probably can.  With the Cally, not very often but you can get lucky and have the ball roll back.

  On Bethpage #15 I always aim to land 2 or 3 yards left of the hole, run up the green and back down again.  The faster the greens, the further left I try to land.  This plan fails pretty much completely with standard or slow greens, for them you have to go right at the pin.

   

• ColumbusStorm 3,417 Posts

  Fri, Oct 3 2014 3:02 PM

  YankeeJim:

  PBaldwin:

   I would definitely not want to learn the level 85 Nike's as they're not going to play identical to the 97's and I have so much time into the R11's as it is.

  By using those R11's with that logic I think you're setting yourself up for a harder game.

  When I upgraded to the L97 Nike from the R11 irons the distances were just about the same, I just kept on playing the same way, except for the PW. The PW is definitely different when using extra spin. I also use full spin frequently and adjust spin from there to dial in distances.

  After a couple full spin, 3/4 spin and no spin and top spin shots with the PW you will be just fine.

• derekortt 669 Posts

  Fri, Oct 3 2014 3:18 PM

  with the L90 Nikes and the R11, the biggest issue for the front right pin at Oakmont is getting the ball to the hole on your second shot. I'm having to play less than full spin so I can utilize the backstop. Have had a few times where my shot has stopped immediately, leaving me a 15 footer underneath the hole

• PBaldwin 108 Posts

  Sat, Oct 4 2014 12:18 PM

  YankeeJim:

  By using those R11's with that logic I think you're setting yourself up for a harder game. You're using the top Nike ball with the fast meter R11's. How many of those shots you're not happy with happened because you missed the ding? Missing the ding with that premium ball is going to hurt more than it would with a lesser ball and it's not hard to miss the ding with the speed of those irons.

  Well I don't think missing the ding is really that bad.  I use 100% backspin all the time unless I need to crack some spin to get some extra yards out of a club.  Even missing the ding these irons allow me to get inside 3-4 yards most of the time, while sometimes the tiny miss dings can be 5-10 yards off line, but those are just rounds I need to claw through and are not normal.  I've dug into the irons enough to realize also that miss dings don't really cut yardages and most likely is a distance issue even if dinged.

  So really my biggest concern for not dinging is the aim.  I ding maybe 25% of the time.

• borntobesting 9,710 Posts

  Sun, Oct 5 2014 11:35 AM

  PBaldwin:

   I use 100% backspin all the time unless I need to crack some spin to get some extra yards out of a club.  Even missing the ding these irons allow me to get inside 3-4 yards most of the time, while sometimes the tiny miss dings can be 5-10 yards off line,

  Those 5 to 10 yard off line shots are more due to the 100% BS with the missed ding than any thing else. The more BS you use with the higher spin balls the bigger the miss can be on miss hits. 

• YankeeJim 25,827 Posts

  Sun, Oct 5 2014 11:54 AM

  PBaldwin:

   Even missing the ding these irons allow me to get inside 3-4 yards most of the time,

  9-12 foot putts might be OK "most of the time" (what about the other times?) for you but shooting to a 3 foot circle yields a lot better results over the long run. Routinely using full back spin is counterproductive in that you're locked into a specific yardage range, one you've come to know but are restricted from adjusting to a large degree. That doesn't even address the deviations you get from the missed dings, both in distance and direction, because you put the deviation into turbo mode with that full back spin.

  PBaldwin:

  while sometimes the tiny miss dings can be 5-10 yards off line, but those are just rounds I need to claw through and are not normal.

  A "tiny ding miss," one I interpret as a pixel or 2, yielding  a 5-10 yard off line result is a monumentally avoidable unforced error. This doesn't happen with no spin or a lesser ball and irons that forgive better than those R11's, which is what the Nikes do. And that is my point.

• Pimpollillo 179 Posts

  Mon, Oct 6 2014 12:42 AM

  R11's are trash.

  They force you to buy good balls to compensate the too-fast meter. 

  Do you want to be competitive?. Start to spend your bucks.

• courteneyfish 15,796 Posts

  Mon, Oct 6 2014 1:14 AM

  Just play and have fun people. Life's too short to map clubs, worry about spin, use spread sheets, use calculators, worry about cheats, care about VEM, etc,etc,etc...

• SweetiePie 4,925 Posts

  Mon, Oct 6 2014 4:48 AM

  courteneyfish:

  Life's too short to map clubs, worry about spin, use spread sheets, use calculators, worry about cheats, care about VEM, etc,etc,etc...

   

  Boy howdy ! LOL !! I have a piece of notebook paper turned sideways taped to the screen, I don't do math in my head or otherwise & I don't gamble, so people can have a ball cheating if they please...and for VEM ? I just toss the game if it tinkers with my fun. ;-}

• YankeeJim 25,827 Posts

  Mon, Oct 6 2014 5:15 AM

  courteneyfish:

  Just play and have fun people. Life's too short to map clubs, worry about spin, use spread sheets, use calculators, worry about cheats, care about VEM, etc,etc,etc...

  Feel free to do just that. There are those that actually DO enjoy all that you mentioned. Keeps the game from getting stale. Gamers and golfers getting along.